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To: editor-surveyor
Huh?
You are being stubborn, unresponsive and rude.

To say that the Oral Tradition PREDOMINATED for MOST Christians of the Early Church in no way requires that NO Written Scripture existed.

Yes, the Oral Tradition predominated in the Early Church, for most Christians. EVERY Christian Scholar worth his salt will agree with me on that point. (You are NOT a Scholar as you claimed, FALSELY, that the Jewish/Hebrew translations of the Greek, used to debate Christians, were original Hebrew and NOT translations. You can not find ANY reputable historian who agrees with you on that point.)

Yes, there were rare pieces of Scripture, but the Bible did not exist until nearly 400 years into the Christian Era. Scripture was large, heavy, cumbersome, not at all easy to copy or transport, it was perishable and it was expensive and it was rare.

I did not say it did not exist.

One of the reasons the Early Church, at the Council of Hippo in North Africa, wanted an OFFICIAL text is because the Scribes who copied the Scripture, as well as the Evangelicals who RECITED Scripture, were not saying exactly the same thing to their congregations, changes were made over time.

For Heaven's sake, basic LANGUAGE changes over time.

Have you ever tried to read original Shakespeare?

And of course, using Latin actually helped the Church preserve the meaning and context of original Scripture.

504 posted on 02/03/2014 12:37:30 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

No, it is you that are being stubborn, unresponsive and rude.

There has been no time when the followers of Yeshua have held oral traditions.

What you’re not grasping is that the mess in Rome has never followed Him, but persecuted those that did, unmercifully.

Antichrist has had his home in Rome since the mid 4th century.

Just read the material posted top you showing categorically that all of his way is written, and none is carried in the vapors of oral tradition.


505 posted on 02/03/2014 12:49:13 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Kansas58
Yes, the Oral Tradition predominated in the Early Church, for most Christians. EVERY Christian Scholar worth his salt will agree with me on that point. (You are NOT a Scholar as you claimed, FALSELY, that the Jewish/Hebrew translations of the Greek, used to debate Christians, were original Hebrew and NOT translations. You can not find ANY reputable historian who agrees with you on that point.)
Yes, there were rare pieces of Scripture, but the Bible did not exist until nearly 400 years into the Christian Era. Scripture was large, heavy, cumbersome, not at all easy to copy or transport, it was perishable and it was expensive and it was rare.
I did not say it did not exist.

I agree in part. The church did have the testimony of the Apostles and Prophets as witnesses to the blood of Christ during much of the First Century. Later they had the witness of the martyrs. Today, the church has the Written Word.

Your excuse that millions didn't have the Word in the first 400 years is not going to satisfy the Lord on judgment Day. He I going to ask, "Why did you call Me a liar?" And in shock you will respond, "Lord, I never called you a liar."

Anyone who believes in the Son of God has this testimony in his heart. Anyone who does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because he has not believed the testimony God has given about his Son. The Holy Bible: New International Version. (1984). (1 Jn 5:10). Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan.

517 posted on 02/03/2014 3:15:12 PM PST by GarySpFc (We are saved by the precious blood of the God-man.)
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