Protestant Caucus: Wretched - Beware of the false conversion

Wretched, Todd Friel ^ | December 30, 2010 | Todd Friel

[SteelTrap]

Beware Of The False Conversion (Wretched with Todd Friel)

[SteelTrap]

Todd Friel discussing false conversion. It happened to him so it can happen to anyone.

[SoConPubbie]

I love this guy!

It is my fervent wish that more of our so-called Christian Ministers become as blunt and straight-forward concerning the Gospel of Jesus Christ as Todd is.

[Alex Murphy]

Todd Friel PFL

[SteelTrap]

Isn’t that the truth. Many preachers today are timid and I think the reason is most of the denominations are quick to fire anyone who is not timid. It is getting harder to find a church that doesn’t spend most of the time playing music and telling non-biblical stories.

[veracious]

After you are saved, beware of false prophets; they teach against Torah and we are strictly told to not hear their words. Note, Yeshua was not a false prophet.

[vpintheak]

Well, I once was going to a Baptist Church and they wanted us to join the church and to know the day I was saved as well. I couldn’t remember, neither could my wife. They were very cautious of us after that.
We were both taught from a young age to believe on Christ and we will be saved. He is the way the truth and the life. Placing a huge emphasis on the “saved” day is a lie. You shall know them by their fruits.

[Patton@Bastogne]

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[metmom]

What, exactly, is your point here?

[metmom]

I don’t know the exact day I was saved. It was at work and I didn’t have a clue about the significance of asking Jesus into my heart, bizarre as that sounds.

I remember the event like it was yesterday, but could not put a date to it if I had to.

[right way right]

I don’t think calling out a person about their personal relationship with Christ in public is a good method of winning any converts.
This is offensive to the Holy Spirit, God and is not Christ like compassion, instead he’s just stroking himself for the approval of his proudly pious piers.
You can’t smuggly jam confession repentance down someones throat!
I find the guy repulsive. HE USES DOUBT JUST LIKE THE DEVIL.

[Patton@Bastogne]

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Despite the lucrative financial benefits of IRS 501 C-3 tax-exempt status ...

being very gentle here ...

The LORD "hates" it because the affected Christian churches and pastors have placed the dictates of the U.S. Federal Government ...

the "contractural terms and conditions" of IRS 501 C-3 ...

which include "voluntary silence" on various Spiritual Issues ...

"above The Lord" ...

in exchange for the "same type" of Thirty Pieces of Silver that Judas accepted for betraying Jesus Christ.


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Those are harsh words, but nonetheless true.


Jesus Christ paid his "full taxes" to Caesar ...

Why should His church seek the "easy way out" and accept the U.S. Government's BRIBERY and "Hush Money" ...


Best regards ...


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[metmom]

Ok. I see it now.

[SoConPubbie]

This is offensive to the Holy Spirit, God and is not Christ like compassion, instead he’s just stroking himself for the approval of his proudly pious piers.

He didn't call out anyone, he did step-by-step, using the man's own honesty about his own condition, prove to the man that he did not know God and was not a Christian.

Was it offensive to the man, no, I think it gave him great pause to think about what was said to him and more than likely put him under conviction by the same Holy Spirit that you so wrongly declared was offended.

Furthermore, Jesus himself spent alot of his time confronting the sin in people's lives. It is as Todd Friel so accurately states that 'r' word, repentence that is abosolutely necessary before one can truly believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It is as important as our faith, because without the knowledge of our need (our total and complete sinfulness and inability to help ourselves in anyway) there is no need for a Savior and our faith will not work.

Finally:

Why do you think that Christ states that His way is a narrow way?

Why do you think that so many walked away from him during His ministry?

Is is because the truth offends those caught in sin.

[vpintheak]

I was a child and have been taught from the start. Praise be to God!