Are you getting ready for your new reality, or what???
Posted on 01/29/2014 10:44:00 AM PST by BlatherNaut
I wonder if the radical Muslims have a good point about Western decadence and immorality.
In other words, she was anti-christ and now she is stlll anti-christ. Only her act changed.
Jesus told his disciples to go where the sinners are.
Yes, of course they do. They can be wrong about everything else, and have plenty of the very thing they are criticizing just below the surface, but are right about that.
Gross misunderstanding and misapplication of what the scripture means.
Yeah, sure, Mandisa was going to go and evangelize up on stage. I'm sure there would have been many conversions. /sarc
Why in the world do people who believe that morality comes from G-d waste their time defending themselves from the charge of "hatred" or any other charge when their position is that no non-theistic morality has any legitimacy whatsoever? Why don't they respond by saying something like "how dare you even imply that something could possibly be morally wrong?"
For centuries Monotheists have been told that the one big flaw in their belief is "the problem of evil." Actually, Monotheists--true Monotheists--have no "problem of evil" at all. It is instead atheists and secularists who have a "problem of evil": namely a belief in objective evil in the absence of any Supreme Being to determine just what constitutes good and what constitutes evil.
The atheists always point to science "disproving" (chas vechalilah!) the existence of G-d as an excuse to scrap sexual taboos. The (cha'v"ch!) absence of G-d leaves these taboos, they quite correctly point out, without foundation. These same atheists then hypocritically forget about this when it comes to the million different causes they are so idealistic about: "social justice," "rights," whatever. The simple point is that in the absence of A-mighty G-d, even mass murder is not objectively wrong. It's just something that turns a lot of stomachs. And if the turning of stomachs were something to build a moral system on, then atheists would have led the anti-homosexual movement from the beginning.
Why does our side keep trying to prove that just because we believe in G-d we're not "bad?" Why do we grant our opponents the right to pretend there is an objective moral code when (if their foundational beliefs are true) they're can't be any such thing? Even conservatives routinely defend themselves from charges of violating the non-existent secular moral code. When will we learn?
What most people, including conservatives, simply don't seem to understand is that it is the existence of G-d that actually makes objective evil possible: firstly by the creation of something other than Himself, secondly by the creation of the lowest, impure, material world, thirdly by creating a creature with free will and fourthly by giving this creature a moral code that he was free to accept or reject. G-d could have chosen to create nothing, to create only spiritual worlds, to create no beings with free will, or to create beings with free will and then give them no law to obey or disobey. In fact it was G-d, not "the devil," Who created and instilled the Evil Inclination in man (though originally it was in perfect balance with his good inclination).
At the peril of making a great number of people angry, chrstianity's fixation on "salvation" other than on keeping G-d's commandments as an end in itself and its ascribing good creations to G-d and evil creations to an alleged evil counterpart of G-d (called "the devil" or "lucifer") has led inevitably to an independent morality by which G-d Himself is now judged--though it took a very long time for it to happen.
I don't say these things to hurt people or just to be a gadfly, but to try and at least get people to think and to begin calling out the pretensions of moralism by people who by definition cannot be moral.
The Grammies were full of hate
“Truly, this vice is never to be compared with any other vice because it surpasses the enormity of all vices.… It defiles everything, stains everything, pollutes everything. And as for itself, it permits nothing pure, nothing clean, nothing other than filth.…” -Saint Peter Damian (1007-1072) http://www.courageouspriest.com/12-quotes-sodomy-catholic
Yeah, they do. I see even Uncle Vlad Putin said we’re Godless.
In fact it was G-d, not “the devil,” Who created and instilled the Evil Inclination in man (though originally it was in perfect balance with his good inclination).
This is where I stopped agreeing. Jehovah gave mankind free will and the ability to learn about evil. Rather than living in “Holy ignorance,” Adam and Eve chose to exercise their free will, and gain the knowledge (and implicitly temptation) of evil, in an misguided and defiant way to become like Him.
You're totally missing the point. The very fact that Adam and Eve existed as physical beings and free moral agents who had been given commandments made sin possible. G-d did not reproduce Himself when He created the universe, and there is no evil counterpart of G-d to make the bad stuff.
Furthermore, G-d created HaSatan and the demons as well (for His own purposes), just as He gave man both the good and evil inclinations (you'd have to read the original Divinely-dictated Hebrew text to see this; no translation is going to give it to you).
And the notion that an angel became evil and "rebelled" and now rules an independent kingdom of evil is from the "new testament," not the TaNa"KH.
Moslems are hypocrites when they whine about western decadence. Islam has fostered pederasty for centuries, child marriage, treating women like sex objects/chattel, FMG, and the like. They’re not clean themselves.
Of they aren’t; yet one of their main arguments against the West is our own decadence and when we allow stuff like this, it’s difficult to dismiss them entirely as crazies.
Moslems have been slaughtering, torturing, raping, looting, pillaging, conquering, and forcibly converting Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jains, animists and anyone else they can find, with extreme ferocity, since 700AD. Their hatred and anger comes from their beliefs, not because others are “bad”. They’ve been like this - NONSTOP - for 1400 years.
You’re saying they’re not entire crazies? Either you are singularly ill informed or ...
Of course western “Culture” is repulsively evil, degraded, depraved, perverted, rotten to the core hellish. And will bring us down even without Moslem interference.
But the two are TWO SEPARATE ISSUES.
Do you know anything of Moslem history??
Are you getting ready for your new reality, or what???
No; frankly I am disgusted with how low my own country has sunk.
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