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To: GarySpFc
However, I'm a theologian, and it's my job to paint a picture as to how God defines Biblical faith.

That's fine. My point was that to very religious people, faith has a strong evidentiary component.

I see the word in these discussions to be relatively useless. If you're going to be arguing with non-believers and people of other religions, they're not going to agree with you on the definition of faith, and it seems to make more sense to jump to evidence, instead of trying to convince others that faith in gravity and faith in the inerrancy of the Bible are the same thing.

59 posted on 02/03/2014 12:37:38 PM PST by GunRunner
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To: GunRunner

If there is no God, then all that exists is time and chance acting on matter. If this is true then the difference between your thoughts and mine correspond to the difference between shaking up a bottle of Mountain Dew and a bottle of Dr. Pepper. You simply fizz atheistically and I fizz theistically. This means that you do not hold to atheism because it is true , but rather because of a series of chemical reactions… … Morality, tragedy, and sorrow are equally evanescent. They are all empty sensations created by the chemical reactions of the brain, in turn created by too much pizza the night before. If there is no God, then all abstractions are chemical epiphenomena, like swamp gas over fetid water. This means that we have no reason for assigning truth and falsity to the chemical fizz we call reasoning or right and wrong to the irrational reaction we call morality. If no God, mankind is a set of bi-pedal carbon units of mostly water. And nothing else. D


63 posted on 02/03/2014 9:24:46 PM PST by GarySpFc (We are saved by the precious blood of the God-man.)
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To: GunRunner
I see the word in these discussions to be relatively useless. If you're going to be arguing with non-believers and people of other religions, they're not going to agree with you on the definition of faith, and it seems to make more sense to jump to evidence, instead of trying to convince others that faith in gravity and faith in the inerrancy of the Bible are the same thing.

I never said they were the same thing. That said, your worldview is blinding you to something far more real than gravity. I fully realize you find that hard to believe, but it's true. The object of your faith is science, and mine is Christ. Your faith is built on empirical evidence, and mine is on historical evidence.

65 posted on 02/04/2014 8:38:09 AM PST by GarySpFc (We are saved by the precious blood of the God-man.)
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