Posted on 02/15/2014 10:52:59 AM PST by NKP_Vet
The first one, ansel.
But you’re more than welcome to take a swing at either, because so far you are batting a big, fat zero.
From what I can see, most people on this page do not even remotely understand my argument.
Nah, it’s not a grammatical quirk IMO, I think it’s a valid point and an important one. Clearly, I overlooked it too, which I regret.
I really appreciate your pointing it out to me, because now it bothers me too thinking about how it associates ownership with the victim.
What you are posting is your strong belief in abortion for rape and incest, and your vile description of pro-life Americans as being for ““raping a raped woman again, but instead of using a penis, you want to use a law.””.
You ignore posts like posts 70 and 73 that attempt to challenge your pro-abortion ravings.
“We all know what you are saying, but they are all Mormons in great standing”.
I just threw up my beer.
Because they ARE NOT pro-abortion ravings, ansel.
What I am arguing for is the ONLY VIABLE SOLUTION for those who want to preserve the lives of unborn children of rape.
My argument is PRO-LIFE, and the reason it is PRO-LIFE is because the only way you are going to be able to effect a raped mother’s decision on this is to talk to her directly and convince her directly that bearing the child is the right thing to do.
And the reason that is the ONLY VIABLE SOLUTION is because there is NEVER going to be a law that makes abortion in the case of rape or incest illegal EVER.
I really can’t make it any clearer to you.
You can hope for the rest of your life that there will be such a law, but the fact of the matter is that you are going to go to your grave with that hope, and that is all there is to it.
“forcing women to bear the children of rape also isn’t the answer”.
Email the writer of the original article and tell her you think her mother should have aborted her. See how that goes over.
“Glenn Beck and his good buddy Willard are both pro-abortion”
TNanna—just how do you know what is in the heart of these men? TN knows because she claims to be a Christian who is content NOT to leave the judgment of others up to the Good Lord.
“I attended catholic grade and high school and did not care about abortion because God was not real to me. When I became a Christian and read the bible I realized God cares about each of us and what we do, my life changed. Lots of people say they believe in God, but don’t live like it, like I did. The fear of The Lord is the beginning of wisdom, is so true”
So you were ignorant of your faith? The Catholic Church teaches no abortion for any reason. You didn’t know this? And why didn’t you ever read the Bible? And for your information, Catholics were the first Christians. Your letter is typical of a lapsed Catholic. Totally ignorant of their own faith. Did you ever believe in the Real Presence at the Eucharist. Did you understand it?
Why would I do that when I don’t think or believe that, NKP_Vet?
You are a military man, are you telling me that you are also incapable of understand what I’m saying here much like ansel is?
I want you to go and look through my posts in this thread and quote for me in my own words where I said that raped women should abort the children of that rape.
I want you to go ahead and show me that quote, or I am going to have no choice but to assume that a member of the US military cannot understand a simple argument from a simple man such as myself.
Yes Im genius enough to know that you are pro-abortion and want to punish an innocent child that God created for something a rapist did, seemingly claiming that it is therapy for the victim of rape and she will feel much better ...
assume that a member of the US military cannot understand a simple argument from a simple man such as myself.
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as a prior member of the US military myself I understand that you are simply pro-abortion and appear to be determined to continue to verbally beat up any FReeper who calls you out on that fact...
Abortion is murder. Makes no difference how the pregnancy occurred. The writer of this article is lying proof of the argument against murdering a child because of a rape.
It has always amazed me that some people call themselves pro-life, but in the case of rape would kill the baby and let the rapist live? How much sense does that make?
George HW Bush was the republican most responsible for getting the other RINOs to have an abortion exception for rape and incest. Like the rest of the Bushes he was a pro-abortion moderate. When Ronald Reagan picked him as his running mate Reagan told him he had change his view on abortion. Then Bush started saying he was “pro-life” but with exceptions for rape and incest and “life of the mother”. In no time at all this because the official stance of the GOP moderates, or RINOs, or whatever you want to call the liberal wing of the GOP. It was Bush the Younger’s stance, Mitt Romney, Bob Dole, and on down the line. It was also Rick Perry’s stance until he changed after watching a movie about a child conceived in rape. He is now for no abortions of any kind, for any reason.
Would a woman say, “He’s my rapist!”? If not, I think it’s best not to assign him as “her rapist.”
(Thank you, I understand you understood. I’m just pointing out the logic for other readers.)
So what you’re telling me is that you’re a complete and total dummy.
No need to state the obvious, Ma’am, it’s apparent.
“Convincing them to do the right thing is the answer, and no, it isn’t likely that 100% of them will be convincible”
Convincing them to not abort for any reason is the answer. This is why democrats should never hold public office.
They are the party of satan.
As a lowly civilian, Ma’am, I understand that you need to be sitting in the corner with your buddy wearing dunce hats.
Tell ya what, Nana.
Why don’t you go find the post and quote the words that I used in this thread that said that I am for aborting babies of rape or any other babies.
Go ahead and find those words and post right here in this thread.
I double dog dare you, Nana.
just how do you know what is in the heart of these men?
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from the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks Matthew 12:34, Luke 6:45
and both of these guys have said abortion is OK..
Willard ran on a pro-abortion platform in 1994 against Ted Kennedy..
During a debate for Mass Gov in 2002 he said that if parents would not give their consent for under age girls to have abortions he would have the judges override parental authority and consent ..
How pro-abortion do you think that is ??
Plus when running in 2012 he said that abortion was OK for rape, incest, and the so called “health of the mother” the Roe V Wwade argument..
he and his wife are financial supporters of Planned Parenthood...
and Willard has stated several times how proud he was of his mother Lenore when she ran for US Senate from Michigan on a pro-abortion platform in 1970...yeah THREE YEARS BEFORE Roe V Wade..
Granted Willard’s aunt died in the 1960s from an illegal abortion and that did help shape the pro-abortion stance of both Lenore and Willard..or at least gave them an excuse for their murderous intents..
But Willard said during a debate in 2008 that because his aunt had died from an abortion he wanted to make them legal and to keep Roe V Wade as the law..”I sustain a woman’s right to have an abortion”
Now wouldn’t you have thought he would want to outlaw abortions since his aunt died from one ??? No he wanted to make them SAFE..
BTW Willard is not a Christian..
and Im not the one who is pushing abortions..
and you don’t have to be a Christian to be pro-life so it mattereth not whether I am a Christian or not..
Yes, I agree that abortion is murder, and I never said that I wanted the rapist to live, and I never said that I wanted to kill the baby.
Furthermore, I do not support any of the Bushes.
What is important here is how do you intend to actually effect stopping the abortions of these children of rape?
I don’t see you getting a law passed for the reasons I stated in a previous post. And even assuming you do get a law passed, I don’t see a judge letting it stand.
So, with that in mind, how do you actually intend to stop these abortions from occurring in practical terms.
What is your plan of action.
I have stated what my solution is, and for my solution I have been assailed.
What’s yours?
Yes I agree with that.
But you see the key is convincing them.
The key is not forcing them, that isn’t going to work or happen.
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