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To: restornu
When ever I encounter anti LDS stuff I always took it to the Lord for understanding.

When ever you encounter LDS stuff; it seems you AVOID it like the plague!

Why is that?

You 'SAY" you want more 'understanding'; But I've seen NO evidence that what you say is TRUE!

110 posted on 02/25/2014 5:43:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie; All

It is like an addiction of a madman who post and repeats endlessly that is locked in a mental institution.

Nothing can rock my Testimony I will never be able deny what I know is true, I may not be a prophet like Joseph Smith, but my witness by the power of the Holy Ghost is forever.

I spent 18 years of my life looking for those passages in the Bible and the Lord answer my prayer.

Unless one fines out for themselves they will never know for sure.

When I was confronted with questionable things from the opposition I looked straight in the eye I did not shrink, I than fell on my knees and prayed to the Lord understanding and the Lord has always shown me the answer.

In the ancient of times the opposition denied the Jesus now they deny there really is a Heavenly Father who spoke this is my beloved Son, Hear Him.

Some post bible verse and do not realized literal meaning of the verse.

John 8 (Jesus is still mortal but he and the Father are One Jesus will be glorified of the Father who is also glorified, but how can Jesus receive an eternal body of Flesh and Bone, and the Father not have the glorified body of Flesh and Bone? Lucifer is the one is only spirit not the Heavenly Father.

They deny the Father as a being instead wrap him up in this 3 in one substance..

Read carefully this passage for Jesus is here on earth he is not a substance he is real and so is his Father real even those the Father is in Heaven. Same conversation today only reverse many believe the Son today, but the Father is to them is a spirit some kind of substance.

27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.

28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.

30 As he spake these words, many believed on him.

31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;

32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

33 ¶They answered him, We be Abraham’s seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.

36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

37 I know that ye are Abraham’s seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?

47 He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

48 Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil?

49 Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me.

50 And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth.

51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.

52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.

53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?

54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:

55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.

56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?

58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

John 5

39 ¶Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

41 I receive not honour from men.

42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.

43 I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?

45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.

46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.

47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

John 6 Jesus came to do the work of His Father in Heaven.

29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

1 John 4:14

14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.

1 John 2:22

22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

2 John 1:3

3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.


116 posted on 02/25/2014 9:00:33 AM PST by restornu
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