[restornu]

If all those things you like to hear and believe were true which they are NOT the fruits of this great Kingdom that has manifest over the 184 years would have been so different.

Matter of fact if what you believe were true it would only be a footnote in history today...

But is not true what many like you believe, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is here to stay and will be way into thousand years of peace, until the work is done and the earth manifest into the Celestial Kingdom.

This Church holds the keys and authority from the Lord Jesus Christ, The Church has no debt, and is well Organized and managed, because it follow corrects principles as taught by the Lord Jesus Christ and the New Covenant of the Lord Jesus Christ are being practiced according to His Will. This Church is a Testament to Lord Jesus Christ.

There are many fine Religious Institutions upon earth today but none were given this calling.

This is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and Jesus Christ is a Head of His Church, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, stands as a testament to The Lord Jesus Christ, and President Monson is the Lord’s prophet on earth today.

I say this in the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen

[SZonian]

"But is not true what many like you believe..."

Saying it's "not true" doesn't make it "not true"...please provide some proof of your claim...and for the record, posting factoids is not a "belief", it's called taking a position based on information, reason and logic, not emotion...

[Tennessee Nana]

until the work is done
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dead dunking unwilling Christians is not going to do one thing to future the Kingdom of Almighty God..

God is not into saving dead people..

He died to save the living.. those able to give an account of themselves..

After you dead its too late..

Hell is forever just the same as Heaven is forever..

and you must choose now before its too late..

Either to repent of your sins and be born again and go to heaven..

or to continue to deny Jesus and go to hell..

Even a simple minded Mormon can understand that..

and you don’t have to shoot anyone to be saved...

[Tennessee Nana]

YAWN

Wheres that in your book of mormon ???

[Tennessee Nana]

Your Mormon jesus is a pussy with no power to do anything..

You need to seek the LORD Jesus Christ of the Christian Bible ..

[svcw]

Jesus taught about forced tithes to get into a temple?
Jesus taught about building multi million dollar shopping centers?
Jesus taught that “charity” must be paid back?
Please provide Biblical references for your claims.

[Tennessee Nana]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

are you related to the sons of Sceva ???

[Tennessee Nana]

But is not true what many like you believe
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So the Bible that I believe in is not true ???

I bet the LORD Jesus Christ, the Word of God was impressed with that revelation..

[greyfoxx39]

This Church holds the keys and authority from the Lord Jesus Christ, The Church has no debt, and is well Organized and managed, because it follow corrects principles as taught by the Lord Jesus Christ and the New Covenant of the Lord Jesus Christ are being practiced according to His Will.

This Church is a Testament to Lord Jesus Christ.This is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and Jesus Christ is a Head of His Church, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, stands as a testament to The Lord Jesus Christ, and President Monson is the Lord’s prophet on earth today.
I say this in the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen

I wasn't aware that there is a "testimony meeting" on FR.

Jim Robinson has warned against "pushing mormon belief on FR".

Post 182
"Just don’t push it on FR. Those who try to push Joe Smith’s false gospel on FR will get it pushed right back at them. FR stands for Truth!! "

What a sterling example of cultic influence your post is and a sad example of complete brainwashing.

[Elsie]

There are many fine Religious Institutions upon earth today but none were given this calling.

And, according to YOUR chosen religion, they are ALL whores.

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If ANY of you MORMONs, reading this, have any info at all where TCOJCOLDS has retracted or changed it's mind about this, I'd like to know.

I'd sure HATE to be spreading false info about your chosen religion.

[SZonian]

You say this in the “name” of Jesus, yet I don’t see you reverencing or even referencing Jesus, more like you are reverencing the “church”...

Why do mormons have to pay an entrance fee to return to Jesus and God?

Why do mormons have to engage in unBiblical practices in temples all in the name of returning to said Jesus and God?

Why do mormons misrepresent the function of certain items in OT temples to justify the unBiblical practices occurring in LDS temples?

[Godzilla]

Reciting the cult mantra eh?
Just pitting lipstick on a pig doesn’t make the pig a princess - so too doesn’t make Mormonism true.

[Tennessee Nana]

The church has no debt
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How would you know ???

are you privy to the books ???

How do you know what the Mormon business does with the money they swindle of the gullible ???

[Tennessee Nana]

The church of jesus christ of latter day saints is here to stay
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The founder of the religion Joey Smith died in 1844 and the ownership changed hands..and took the group out of town..

The main reason for the group an everlasting forever practice became less than everlasting and was tossed out in 1890..

There is no temple built in Independence MO and unlikely to ever be one..

The current true believing prophet of the Mormons, Warren Jeffs is in prison for adhering to everything Joseph Smith taught him..

The leader of an off shoot group in SLC with a watered down version of the religion is a malfeasant charged with criminal financial fraud..and he also could wind up in prison..

The religion was lost for 1800 years and unlike Christianity didn’t “stay” here on Earth continually for the last 2,000 years...

If the Mormon religion can be so easy lost or dropped or stolen or damaged or misplaced or misfiled or hacked or deleted for 1800 years, so easily, it could happen again..

This religion doesn’t have a good record of staying anywhere...

This religion has a bad record and is not reliable to be trusted to “stay”

Does that sound like a religion that’s here to stay ???

No it sounds like someone needs to come and restore it to its former “glory”..

I’m sure the much aligned and persecuted martyr Warren Jeffs will get right onto that when the Gentiles let him out of prison..

[Tennessee Nana]

The church has no debt,
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How the Mormons do it...

Aug 4, 1877 - Brigham Young obtains cancellation of his debts in Ogden, Utah, dating back to 1849.

July 20 1893 - The First Presidency and Apostles discuss “the propriety of calling on 100 men to loan to the church 1000 each or more to relieve the church of its weighty obligations. The discussion of the subject was chiefly against the plan lest it should precipitate a panic by drawing at this time such an amount from the banks. It was thought better for the banks to carry us quietly along till some relief should come in from some other direction.” Apostle Francis M. Lyman writes: “My name was down for 1000 and it transpires that I have already years ago loaned the church 1000 at 8% per annum. It is the amount I put into the Deseret Investment Co. The question was postponed for one week. The pressure upon the church is very great just now. The Lord will have to come to our rescue or we will be compelled into Bankruptcy.”

[Elsie]

But is not true what many like you believe, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is here to stay and will be way into thousand years of peace, until the work is done and the earth manifest into the Celestial Kingdom.

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With the Mormons (to be precise, the members of The Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints - based in Salt Lake City) intent on being called “Christians” after so many years of eschewing that word, and despite the fact that there are so many fundamental theological differences between Christianity and Mormonism, I often wonder: 

How do members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints feel about calling the members of its various spin-off sects Latter-Day Saints, Christians, or Mormons? Or about those sects calling themselves Mormons or Latter-Day Saints? (There was an earlier campaign by LDS to have journalism style books use the word “Mormon” to refer only to LDS, and not RLDS, FLDS, or other LDS sects).

For a man who bragged about holding things together, Joseph Smith, Jr. doesn’t appear go have done a good job of it during his lifetime. Wycam Clark’s “Pure Church of Christ” spun off in 1831. This trend continued. There were six LDS sects spawned in the 1830s, eight in the 1840s, two in the 1850s, and seven in the 1860s.

Do those responsible for the “Mormons are Christians” campaign consider these denominations to be Mormons or Latter-Day Saints? Surely many of these denominations are much closer to mainstream LDS than LDS is to Christianity. Many stick to Smith’s teachings and old temple endowment ceremonies.

Short Creek Community
Latter Day Church of Christ
Apostolic United Brethren
Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
Church of the Firstborn of the Fulness [sic] of Times
Church of the Lamb of God
Church of the New Covenant in Christ
Confederate Nations of Israel
Righteous Branch of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
School of the Prophets
Centennial Park
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the Kingdom of God
True and Living Church of Jesus Christ of Saints of the Last Days
The Church of the Firstborn and the General Assembly of Heaven

Blackmore/Bountiful Community
Restoration Church of Jesus Christ
Order of Enoch
Aaronic Order
Zion’s Order, Inc.
Perfected Church of Jesus Christ of Immaculate Latter-day Saints
Church of Jesus Christ (Bullaite)
Community of Christ
Church of Jesus Christ (Toneyite)
Independent RLDS / Restoration Branches
Church of Jesus Christ Restored 1830
Church of Christ (Lion of God Ministry/Clarkite)
Church of Jesus Christ (Zion’s Branch)
Restoration Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
Remnant Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
Church of Christ (Temple Lot) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Fettingite) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ at Halley’s Bluff (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Restored) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ “With the Elijah Message” (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Hancock) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Burtite) (Hendrickite)
Church of Israel (Hendrickite)
Church of Christ with the Elijah Message (The Assured Way of the Lord) (Hendrickite)
The Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite)
Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite)
True Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite)
Restored Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite)
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Strangite)
Holy Church of Jesus Christ (Strangite)
Church of Jesus Christ (Drewite) (Strangite)
True Church of Jesus Christ Restored (Strangite)
Pentecostal Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Whitmerite)

Or these defunct sects:

Pure Church of Christ (Clarkite)
Independent Church (Hotonite)
Church of Christ (Boothite)
Church of Christ (Parrishite)
Alston Church
Church of Christ (Chubbyite)
Church of Jesus Christ, the Bride, the Lamb’s Wife
Church of Christ (Pageite)
True Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (this one was particularly curious - started by William Law, editor of The Nauvoo Expositor, just one of many sects started in opposition to plural marriage)
The Church of Zion (Godbeite)
United Order Family of Christ
Church of the Potter Christ
Church of the Firstborn (Morrisite)
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Gibsonite)
Church of Jesus Christ of Saints of the Most High
Church of the Christian Brotherhood
Church of Jesus Christ of the Children of Zion (Rigdonite) Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite)
Primative Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite)
Church of Christ (Aaron Smith)
Church of the Messiah (Adamsite)
Church of Christ (Wrightite)
Church of Christ (Whitmerite)
Church of Christ (Brewsterite)
The Bride, the Lamb’s Wife
Congregation of Jehovah’s Presbytery of Zion
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Gladdenite)
Independent Latter Day Saints of Nigeria
Independent Latter Day Saints of Ghana
Apostolic Divine Church of Ghana

Are members of those LDS groups “Mormons”? “Latter Day Saints?” “Christians?”

Do the folks in Salt Lake City have a problem with any of those groups, who believe in the restoration of the original church by Joseph Smith, calling themselves Mormons or Saints?

Most of these divisions in the Latter-Day Saint movement occurred over the issue of polygamy or succession of the Prophet. Sects broke off when Joseph Smith was still alive, and when Brigham Young was named prophet, because they didn’t believe in the practice of plural marriage – either publicly, or in some cases when it was practiced in private and denied in public.

Of course, there was the great split between Rocky Mountain Saints and Prairie Saints, when LDS members couldn’t agree on a successor prophet to Smith, Jr., and the church went to Utah, Missouri, Illinois, Michigan, and Pennsylvania under Brigham Young, Sidney Rigdon (senior member of the First Presidency), James Strang, Lyman Wight, Alpheus Cutler, William Smith, David Whitmer (a BOM witness), or Joseph Smith III (son of Joseph Smith, Jr.). Almost all of these individuals still has multiple sects in existence that date to an 1844 decision about who should be the next President/Prophet of the church.

The Prairie Saints split into sects over the issue of whether Smith practiced polygamy. Rocky Mountain Saints had many, many spinoff sects after the 1890 Manifesto – groups that still practice plural marriage.

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Thanks to ScoutMaster for all the hard work here!

[Elsie]

But is not true what many like you believe, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is here to stay and will be way into thousand years of peace, until the work is done and the earth manifest into the Celestial Kingdom.

 

 

Latter-day Saints (or Mormons) believe that righteous people will rise in a "first resurrection" and live with Christ on earth after His return.^[99] After the 1000 years known as the Millennium, the individuals in spirit prison who chose not to accept the gospel and repent^[100] will also be resurrected and receive an immortal physical body, which is referred to as the "second resurrection".^[101] At these appointed times of resurrection, "death and hell" will deliver up the dead that are in them to be judged according to their works (Revelations 20:13), at which point all but the sons of perdition will receive a degree of glory, which Peter compared to the glory of the sun, moon, and stars (1 Corinthians 15:41). The LDS Church explains biblical descriptions of hell being "eternal" or "endless" punishment as being descriptive of their infliction by God rather than an unending temporal period. Latter-day Saint scripture quotes God as telling church founder Joseph Smith, Jr.: "I am endless, and the punishment which is given from my hand is endless punishment, for Endless is my name. Wherefore—Eternal punishment is God's punishment. Endless punishment is God's punishment. "^[102]