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To: albionin

You really don’t understand religion or conservatism.

The Christians that created America wanted small government, the less the better, the Christians would take care of the rest, the atheists and liberals, and anti-Christians want government to run everything.

Jesus spoke to us to take care of our neighbors as individuals, to reveal what is inside of us individually, not to do the opposite, and turn that over to government workers and the tax system, the government isn’t a “brother’s keeper”, that is why it is anti-God, and anti-Christian.

Capitalism is seen as the most moral of economic systems, you seem to see it as immoral, and socialism as moral, while you probably like capitalism yourself, in general, atheists are only interested in short term gain, so they vote democrat to loot what they can today, and to live as they want, for today, with no concern of the future, welfare doesn’t help the poor, it destroys them, but it serves as a power and wealth base for the left while at the same time, pushing out Christian charity.

You sound young, or as though you come from a liberal background.


67 posted on 02/26/2014 4:38:08 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12

This is actually a very complex set of arguments with a very long history.

There are a lot of historical conservatisms. US conservatism of the present day is its own unique case, differing from much of the rest of the world. Russell Kirk’s “Conservative Mind” is a good place to start. The American uniqueness is the very subject of De Toqueville’s work.

Capitalism in fact was usually considered, in most religious traditions, including most of historical Christianity, as essentially godless and morally compromised.


76 posted on 02/26/2014 4:45:23 PM PST by buwaya
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To: ansel12

I don’t know how you could have possibly gotten from my comments that I support Socialism. I am the arch enemy of socialism. I am for complete, unregulated laizzes faire capitalism. I said that there is no rational justification for Socialism and that is why I find so many atheists to be hypocrites. I choose to be consistent and only hold beliefs for which there is rational justification.

Capitalism is the only moral system and it is incompatible with the morality of self sacrifice. Capitalism is about the achievement of values not their sacrifice.


163 posted on 02/27/2014 7:33:01 AM PST by albionin (A gawn fit's aye gettin..)
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