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To: Diago

Sorry people, Satan always has tried this type of thing, but the reason he is now more successful than ever is that sincerely faithful people have dropped the ball by their hyper-literalism and shallow “mega church” mentality. Centuries of wisdom about how to spiritually feed the flock with profound but mysterious signposts has been replaced by singing “I love you sooooo much Jesus” romance songs.


24 posted on 03/22/2014 6:22:02 PM PDT by dinoparty
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To: dinoparty

Ah, maybe if he went to a real Christian school things would be different. Like one that is Christ focused and not evolutionary focused.

This was a Roman Catholic Jesuit University. Somehow Christ escaped the curriculum and Muslims and atheist philosophers were more prominent.


60 posted on 03/23/2014 12:46:55 AM PDT by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: dinoparty

Its clear from the short article he never really believed anything at all, rather he just accepted what he was told without question and then the first time he had to actually think about it, God didn’t somehow immediately conform to what the PC TV/MSM culture had molded into his psyche while he was growing up. This is why a firm foundation in the word is required,

It’s not only colleges that breed this kind, many mainstream denominations create listless believers by being nothing more than a social club of good works, no spirit in them at all,

Its always our arrogance that blinds (any of) us from coming to an understanding of his truth, seeing only in the flesh, attempting to step above where everything around us relating to sin has been normalized in our modern culture. How can anyone ever hope to see in the spirit. Young people today have little to fall back on if they didn’t hear it from their parents or grandparents, if their left to this world for instruction in faith,

“And some fell on stony ground, where it had not much earth; and immediately it sprang up, because it had no depth of earth: But when the sun was up, it was scorched; and because it had no root, it withered away.” Mark 4:5-6

The Word does not argue for itself that God exists, its a given, we’re told that we should believe from the things that are:

“For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: “ Romans 1:20

This is a spiritual deception, being blinded, seeing only in the flesh, the natural world, its nothing new,

I had a similar conversation several months back with a relative, it was about a youtube video of an atheist addressing the members of some church, apparently the misguided pastor brought him in as part of some ‘understanding’ rubbish. Jesus said let the dead bury the dead.

I said before we watched the presentation together, I suspect we’ll see there are certain lines he wont cross, these will be out of bounds, despite the ‘understanding bit’ but everything else will be generally just fine, anything anti-christ is also fine,

Just like mainstream cults, atheists don’t want to hear certain things,

1. dont tell them that Jesus is the only way, Son of the living God having come in the flesh,
2 dont quote scripture to them,
3. dont talk about end times events, that is, don’t bring up what is occurring right now in current events as having been foretold, they will have none of that,

He was a very good speaker, well spoken, articulate, presented his case with all manner of worldly wisdom, easily made the pastor look foolish, but I was surprised by how closely he evidenced the three items above, when he did, you could see his entire demeanor change, he was noticeably reticent, flashes of anger, very unlike the rest of his presentation,

When believers reject the truth, its interesting to later see what they ultimately replace it with, what they will take up instead of the cross,

Why cant they perceive, discuss or accept prophecy? Because it requires his spirit for them to see it,

” . . for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” Revelation 19:10

At the close of the age, these are the ones that will seek death but not be able to find it, desire to die but death will flee from them that we’re told about in Revelation chapter 9,


128 posted on 03/23/2014 11:31:08 AM PDT by captmar-vell
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