Posted on 04/17/2014 5:43:38 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
Or fear that it is NOT - hence the immediate reactionary defense at the slightest hint that the RCC might not be right in everything?
No fear of that at all. Papal authority extends to morality, right and wrong, and he is infallible in only that context.
However, Pope Francis I is never preaching anything new, is he? NONE of the popes preached anything new. Sin is VERY old. It's not as if we humans have invented ANY new sin. I think we humans have already committed all the sins there are to commit and we will continue to commit them until our good Lord ends it all for us, personally or totally.
I doubt if I EVER shocked a priest at confession. I might have shocked myself and what I had done but, never the priest.
IMAGINE what they hear.
What does that mean? The word used in that verse is Hades which simply means the unseen world. So what does the gates of the unseen world will not prevail against it mean?
You’re welcome. The Bible tells us to warn each other, so that’s what we must do. God isn’t a man that He should lie. Things are as He says, and He’ll do as He says He will. And listening to Him doesn’t just save us from pain and quite possibly Hell itself, but brings us closer to Him and truly fulfills us.
Who do I think? God Himself. And Jesus’ disciples never would have wanted to take any of the credit knowing that they themselves were completely sinfuland unworthy. Moses didn’t enter the Promised Land for one reason, and one reason only: because He “did a work”which gave some credit to himself rather than clearly allowing the people to see that only God Himself deserved their gratitude, awe and worship. “The church” also only refers to all those who have been saved by faith. “Ekklesia” means “called out.”
Please see my reply in Post 45 as it speaks to your comments, too. “The church” is those who have been “called out” by God to believe in His Son as the only personal Saviour for our individual sins. But because only God knows who all those people truly are, we must in our limited understanding and knowledge call anyone who professes a genuine belief in Jesus as their Savior a part of the Church, and we must use the word “church” in other ways, too, which are based on our limitations in this life, too.
You’re welcome.
I don’t have the time tonight to reply to your post, but I will as soon as I can.
I see someone who wants the record of the LONGEST existing religious organization by using a narrow definition.
Satan does a pretty good job with Scripture...
Jesus answered, The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.
Opinion?
I saw a QUESTION.
Some people just don’t know their history, do they?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2280714/posts
And some people just don't know their Scripture, do they? If they did, they would agree with what Faith Presses On said a few posts back. The "church" is the called-out assembly, ekklesia of ALL the redeemed in Christ through faith in Him. To assert it is only ones own church, as in worship place or religion, misses the whole point of the gospel.
Jesus answered, The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.
What else do you wish to ADD?
5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.
6 The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.
12 The whole assembly became silent as they listened to Barnabas and Paul telling about the signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles through them. 13 When they finished, James spoke up. Brothers, he said, listen to me. 14 Simon[a] has described to us how God first intervened to choose a people for his name from the Gentiles. 15 The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:
16 After this I will return
and rebuild Davids fallen tent.
Its ruins I will rebuild,
and I will restore it,
17 that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,
even all the Gentiles who bear my name,
says the Lord, who does these things[b]
18 things known from long ago.[c]
19 It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21 For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.
The apostles and elders, your brothers,
To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia:
Greetings.
24 We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. 25 So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.
Farewell.
30 So the men were sent off and went down to Antioch, where they gathered the church together and delivered the letter. 31 The people read it and were glad for its encouraging message. 32 Judas and Silas, who themselves were prophets, said much to encourage and strengthen the believers. 33 After spending some time there, they were sent off by the believers with the blessing of peace to return to those who had sent them. [34] [d] 35 But Paul and Barnabas remained in Antioch, where they and many others taught and preached the word of the Lord.
What else do you wish to ADD?
Acts 15
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Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood.
No, they are not all used. In the Greek there is only one word used and that is Hades. It means the unseen world.
>>so whats your point?<<
My point is that the Catholic Church has corrupted the meaning of scripture. They have corrupted the very word ekklésia and turned it into something it never was intended. They have also corrupted the meaning of Hades. Hades from the New Testament and Sheol from the Old are not Gehenna. And church is not ekklésia
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