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To: PapaNew; ADSUM; metmom
"But the anointing which you have received of him abides in you, and you need not that any man teach you" (1 John 2:27).

I love scripture and enjoy citing it, in context, rather than as an isolated statement. Your quotation comes from the 1st Book of John, chapter 2. You realize, no doubt, that in quoting from this, you are following tradition because someone had to decide which books belong in the Canon of the New Testament. Early Christian tradition identified this work as a letter of John the apostle. Because of its resemblance to the fourth gospel in style, vocabulary, and ideas, it is generally agreed that both works are the product of the same school of Johannine Christianity.

So what was the purpose of the original text? The letter is intended to combat certain false ideas, especially about Jesus, and to deepen the spiritual and social awareness of the Christian community (1 Jn 3:17). Some former members (1 Jn 2:19) of the community refused to acknowledge Jesus as the Christ (1 Jn 2:22) and denied that he was a true man (1 Jn 4:2). Essentially, the letter was intended to address a heresy.

As such, your citation does not fit the current discussion.

102 posted on 04/26/2014 2:49:55 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer
the letter was intended to address a heresy

As far as I'm concerned, that's what we're talking about here. The idea that the Holy Spirit can't directly teach you the truth is not Biblical. Jesus said that by continuing in the his word, you will know the truth and 1 John says the anointing of the Holy Spirit will teach you, not man.

Another man-made rule that keep God's people in bondage.

103 posted on 04/26/2014 3:11:12 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: NYer; PapaNew
I love scripture and enjoy citing it, in context, rather than as an isolated statement.

Just wow. From Catholics who take all kinds of verse out of context to support their church's doctrines......

As such, your citation does not fit the current discussion.

IOW, it contradicts Catholic teaching so must be dismissed as being irrelevant.

105 posted on 04/26/2014 3:25:07 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: NYer; PapaNew
The letter is intended to combat certain false ideas, especially about Jesus, and to deepen the spiritual and social awareness of the Christian community (1 Jn 3:17).

Are you mind reading John or the Holy Spirit now?

How do you know it was written to combat whatever the Catholic church calls heresy?

107 posted on 04/26/2014 3:26:32 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: NYer; PapaNew
The letter is intended to combat certain false ideas, especially about Jesus, and to deepen the spiritual and social awareness of the Christian community (1 Jn 3:17).

As a matter of fact, John tells us why he wrote what he did and it was this.....

John 20:30-31 Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book; but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

108 posted on 04/26/2014 3:28:18 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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