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To: JPX2011
You have offered no proof whatsoever of Biblical authority to bar communion. But you want me to prove that barring communion is not in the Bible. That's like saying, "prove that automobiles are not in the Bible." My friend, you don't prove negatives. You prove that something IS a law. You don't prove a law that DOESN'T EXIST.

Look, I've stayed with you thus far and you've failed to produce any Biblical proof for supporting this action. But this is turning into a silly game and starting to look like it's a good faith discussion.

I'm not interested in nonsense.

37 posted on 04/24/2014 5:08:18 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

How can I offer Biblical authority when you won’t even define your understanding of communion? Like I said we can’t be sure we’re talking about the same thing. I gave you my definition. Terms need to be defined if we’re going to move forward. It’s not about asking you to prove a negative. It’s ensuring we’re on the same wavelength. There’s nothing nonsensical about that.

If you don’t believe in the Real Presence then say so. At least we know where each other stands and we can build upon that.


42 posted on 04/24/2014 5:28:08 PM PDT by JPX2011
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To: PapaNew

This is the same Sola Scriptura argument that Catholics and Protestants have disagreed on for centuries.

Protestants believe that if something is silent in the Bible then God has no position on the matter, so depending on the version of Protestant belief it is either 1) prohibited, or 3) allowed according to the whims of the interpreter.

Catholics believe that God is bigger than can fit in all the books in all the libraries that will ever exist. Though the Bible has all that is necessary and sufficient for salvation, there is so much more of God to be explored. One who truly loves God will naturally seek more than what is in the Bible. So long as it is not contradicting what is stated in the Bible, it is worthy of consideration. That is why priests have to learn philosophy and theology, which involve investigations about God beyond what is in the Bible for a deeper understading. It is also this need for more that we have Magisterium and Tradition to tell us more about God.

It is as if you do not know or understand yet what Catholics are about. Saying something is not strictly scriptural and therefore allowed/not allowd has no effect on us, because we have also to consider Tradition and Magisterium.

We will not convice you here. You will not convince us either. Both sides are just talking past each other. As it is an internal matter to the Catholic Church, why are you even concerned?


44 posted on 04/24/2014 5:33:25 PM PDT by Seraphicaviary (St. Michael is gearing up. The angels are on the ready line.)
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