Posted on 05/11/2014 5:55:03 AM PDT by marshmallow
In all this you did not answer my question.
which one is yours? I have been scrolling
you mean blood type?
Does the Bible mention Jesus blood type?
we both know it does not.
So, it has zero significance
ITALIAN SCIENTIST RECREATES THE SHROUD OF TURIN (Friday Church News Notes, October 9, 2009, www.wayoflife.org fbns@wayoflife.org, 866-295-4143) - Luigi Garlaschelli of the University of Pavia has reproduced the
technique that was probably used to create the Shroud of Turin. The 14-foot-long cloth, which resides in the Roman Catholic cathedral in Turin, Italy, is alleged to be the burial shroud of Jesus. It appears to bear the image of a wounded,
long-haired man. The history of the shroud only goes back to the 14th century, and it was condemned even by some Catholic authorities as a fraud. In 1389 Bishop Pierre D’Arcis exposed it as “a clever sleight of hand.” In spite of its shady
history many Catholics and even some Protestants consider it authentic, and it is trotted out on special occasions for the “veneration of the faithful.” The Roman Catholic Church has always shown interest in relics such as this shroud, and
multitudes have made pagan-like pilgrimages to offer devotion to such things. Rome’s relic business is very lucrative. Radiocarbon tests by three separate laboratories in 1988 dated the shroud to the 13th or 14th century. Garlaschelli
reproduced it using materials and techniques that were available in the Middle Ages. The Bible believer knows that the Turin Shroud is not the burial wrapping of Jesus, because John 20:7 says that Jesus’ head was wrapped separately
with a cloth called “the napkin.” Further, Jesus did not have long hair. He was a Nazarene, because He grew up in Nazareth, but unlike Samson, Jesus was not a Nazarite (Numbers 6:1-5). His own apostle said that “if a man have long hair,
it is a shame unto him” (1 Cor. 11:14).
http://www.wayoflife.org/index_files/friday_church_news_10_41.html
the burial customs is a valid question, for it contained the practice of a face cloth that was wrapped around the head, not just a long sheet that wrapped from head to toe, front to back
Jn 20:6 Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie,
Jn 20:7 And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.
John tells us that, that means there was something around His head, too, not just a shroud around His body
That to me, is biblical evidence the shroud is not from Jesus
Jesus would not have left a relic to worship, folks
The Jews of that day would also have considered everything that Jesus wore to be ritually unclean:
Num 19:13 Whosoever toucheth the dead body of any man that is dead, and purifieth not himself, defileth the tabernacle of the Lord; and that soul shall be cut off from Israel: because the water of separation was not sprinkled upon him, he shall be unclean; his uncleanness [is] yet upon him.
Num 19:14 This [is] the law, when a man dieth in a tent: all that come into the tent, and all that [is] in the tent, shall be unclean seven days.
Num 19:15 And every open vessel, which hath no covering bound upon it, [is] unclean.
Num 19:16 And whosoever toucheth one that is slain with a sword in the open fields, or a dead body, or a bone of a man, or a grave, shall be unclean seven days.
Num 19:17 And for an unclean [person] they shall take of the ashes of the burnt heifer of purification for sin, and running water shall be put thereto in a vessel:
Num 19:18 And a clean person shall take hyssop, and dip [it] in the water, and sprinkle [it] upon the tent, and upon all the vessels, and upon the persons that were there, and upon him that touched a bone, or one slain, or one dead, or a grave:
Num 19:19 And the clean [person] shall sprinkle upon the unclean on the third day, and on the seventh day: and on the seventh day he shall purify himself, and wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and shall be clean at even.
Num 19:20 But the man that shall be unclean, and shall not purify himself, that soul shall be cut off from among the congregation, because he hath defiled the sanctuary of the Lord: the water of separation hath not been sprinkled upon him; he [is] unclean.
Num 19:21 And it shall be a perpetual statute unto them, that he that sprinkleth the water of separation shall wash his clothes; and he that toucheth the water of separation shall be unclean until even.
Num 19:22 And whatsoever the unclean [person] toucheth shall be unclean; and the soul that toucheth [it] shall be unclean until even.
It is clear, if a dead body touches it, it is unclean:
Hag 2:11 Thus saith the Lord of hosts; Ask now the priests [concerning] the law, saying,
Hag 2:12 If one bear holy flesh in the skirt of his garment, and with his skirt do touch bread, or pottage, or wine, or oil, or any meat, shall it be holy? And the priests answered and said, No.
Hag 2:13 Then said Haggai, If [one that is] unclean by a dead body touch any of these, shall it be unclean? And the priests answered and said, It shall be unclean.
So, what ever Jesus died in would have been destroyed, or else people would have been keeping garments that would be considered unclean by ANYONE, Jewish believer in Christ or not, it was unclean!
"Whosoever toucheth the dead body of any man that is dead"
"Whoever touches a dead person, the body of any man who has died" (RSV)"
I don't believe the "uncleanness" applies to someone touching a dead body that becomes alive again, but only one that STAYS dead.
The prophet Elijah touched the body of a dead little boy as he prayed that God would bring him back to life (1 Kings 17:17-24).
Jesus touched the body of a dead little girl (the daughter of Jairus) as he commanded her to return to life (Mark 5:35-43).
Jesus touched the funeral bier of a dead young man (the son of the widow of Nain) as he commanded him to return to life (Luke 7:11-17).
In none of the above three cases does the Scripture indicate ritual defilement of the person touching the dead person or the dead person's clothes/belongings. Elijah had no fear of defilement when he prayed for the resurrection of the widow's son.
Interestingly enough, the crowds (and the Pharisees) did not shout at Jesus to refrain from touching the dead as a warning against defiling Himself.
your arguement is about people who were brought back to life, not people who stayed dead, or were expected to stay dead
The person who dies in the tent, all he owned was unclean
do you honestly think that it was also, only the touching of their flesh and not the touching of the garments that was included in what was unclean?
Your argument fails in all these tests.
I have never doubted. Carbon dating done after a fire.
I too Believe.
On a section of the shroud that was known to have been repaired in the Middle Ages. Real solid sciencing there.
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