"Orans" Posture and Hand-Holding During the Our Father -- Two Liturgical Abuses at Once

Biblical Evidence for Catholicism ^ | July 07, 2008 | Dave Armstrong

[Elsie]

Is every man free to interpret the Bible as he sees fit?

IOW, does any earthly authority have God-given disciplinary authority over an individual Christian? If not, then the former must be true.

And if the former is true, isn’t every follower of Luther’s doctrine of the Bible ALONE as the sole rule of faith, his own denomination?

 

[Elsie]

That said, Catholic Churches have holiness down. You can feel the presence walking into many.

One can definitely feel something.

I've had the same feeling being at the Gettysburg cemetery; too.

[Elsie]

Your opinion is meaningless.

Not to me!

"Out of the abundance of the heart...

[RegulatorCountry]

How does one handle: "Does this dress make me look fat?"

The answer to "does this dress make my butt look big" is "why yes it does, and you should wear it more often."

[Elsie]

But not as meaningless as yours when you put down Catholics.

"Their infidels are committing suicide by the hundreds on the gates of Baghdad. Be assured, Baghdad is safe, protected."

[Elsie]

Show me where I put down Catholics.

Every post that you have ever replied to from me has been a putdown of the Catholic Church.

It seems you went to the store for apples; and returned with oranges.

[Elsie]

You have never replied to any post concerning Catholicism in a positive manner. When you weigh in it is the same negative putdowns.

Never?

It's that damned Luther's fault.

He started this mess by putting down the church 95 times.

(Or so I've heard...)

[Elsie]

Jesus has won the ultimate battle and secured the victory of salvation for those who believe and ACT ON THAT BELIEF.

"What MUST we do...

[JPX2011]

Once again, I challenge you to post the NEED to use TRADITIONS of men to AID in a persons Salvation.

Bzzzz. Wrong answer. Tradition = Apostolic oral teaching not "traditions of men".

Amputate a limb and tell me you didn't really need it to begin with.

[Elsie]

Deny it if you will, hate it if you must, but the truth is that the KNOWLEDGE Jesus and the assurance of salvation through Jesus came to you through the Church.

HMMMmmm...

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John 6:45 
It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God.

 

 Isaiah 54:13
All your children will be taught by the LORD, and great will be their peace.

[JPX2011]

John 6:28..."What MUST we do...

John 6:27

[Elsie]

You switched it from *putting down Catholics* to *putting down the Church*.

Oh; you noticed, too.

[Elsie]

Well, living among and worshiping with Catholics every day, I find that most are confident that God’s promise to them will be fulfilled.

Can't disagree with this, but WHY will the promise by fulfilled?

[Elsie]

Only a person whose heart is blackened with hate for the Church would see “sense” in the sedevacantist position.

So much HATE! - so little time.

[Elsie]

How’s the single life treating you?

;^)

[JPX2011]

So much HATE! - so little time.

Yup. So much so that protestants will make common cause with people who believe the Chair of St. Peter to be vacant, even though they themselves deny the existence of said chair.

Any port in a storm.

[Elsie]

Amputate a limb and tell me you didn't really need it to begin with.

ADD one and tell why YOU needed it!

[Elsie]

Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on him God the Father has placed his seal of approval.”

[Elsie]

Not vacant; but non-existant.

[JPX2011]

ADD one and tell why YOU needed it!

Sorry. The analogy doesn't fly. Nothing was added. Tradition always was. Sacred Scripture/Sacred Tradition. All part of the Depoit of th Faith. But nice try though.