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Explaining the Heresy of Catholicism (John MacArthur)
Grace To You ^ | Pastor John MacArthur

Posted on 05/26/2014 4:13:56 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne

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To: Dr. Thorne

I was a Catholic for 50 years, until I began to read and study my Bible. That intense study led me away from all religion and now empowered by the Holy Spirit I now worship Christ in total freedom.

Anyone who truly takes time to read and absorb the book of Galations would want to immediately run away from all religion, and live life instead in absolute freedom in Christ.

As for Catholicism, it is bondage....as are all religions. Some are just worse than others.


122 posted on 05/26/2014 5:42:20 PM PDT by Boanarges
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To: spacejunkie2001

We’ll have to agree to disagree. God bless!


123 posted on 05/26/2014 5:42:20 PM PDT by mkmensinger
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To: Dr. Thorne

We’re supposed to be on the same team. Why post such a devisive article.


124 posted on 05/26/2014 5:44:40 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Dr. Thorne

Who made you Pope?


125 posted on 05/26/2014 5:46:35 PM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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To: ealgeone
The Catholic Church does not and never has taught universal salvation. The link you provided is full of extremely weak "evidence," to say the least. The Catholic Churches that salvation is possible for all men, ie that God provides every man, in some way, the grace needed to be saved. Whether that grace is accepted is not certain.

Which is what the "evidence" at the link says. Its rather different that Calvinism, where some people are damned before all eternity, apparently in order to make those who aren't feel extra special.

126 posted on 05/26/2014 5:46:51 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Gamecock
History is of no interest to you?

That seems to be a trend around here with FRotestants.

127 posted on 05/26/2014 5:48:31 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: OneVike
As we know 93% are so afraid of the Bible they never even open it. How can they ever fact check what the priests are teaching if they never read it?

ROFLMBO! This is like a Huffington/DU statistic: As we know 93% of conservatives are so afraid of black people they never even talk to them.

"Fact check" what the priests are teaching? You are so, so, so incredibly stupid in your "knowledge" I don't know where to begin. But why bother; you "know" it all. This whole thread is simply a flamethrowing exercise for the anti-Catholic bigots, plain as day.

128 posted on 05/26/2014 5:50:42 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: spacejunkie2001
but catholics do pray to dead people right?

Are the saints in heaven more or less alive than we are?

Are the saints in heaven members of the Body of Christ?

Is the Body of Christ divided?

...and if they pray to dead people isn’t it because they believe dead people have the same or similar powers as Jesus Christ?

No.

There is confusion regarding the Catholic practice of "praying to the saints" because Catholics and non-Catholics use the term "pray" differently, at least in the English speaking world.

Catholics use the word in its archaic form, meaning "to ask." We simply ask the glorified saints in heaven to pray to God for us, just as we would ask saints on earth to pray for us. We are all members of the One Body of Christ.

The term "pray," in modern usage, connotes worship; hence the confusion.

129 posted on 05/26/2014 5:50:50 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: All

I’m LCMS, and I don’t care for the arrogant Papist types gratuitously bashing Luther or Lutheranism, or Protestantism in general; however, I’m not fond of the Protestant chauvinists slamming Catholicism either. In all the most important areas-there being one G*d, that G*d is a Triune deity consisting of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirt, that the Son was born of a virgin human woman, that He grew up, was crucified, died and three days later rose from the dead, there isn’t a baby’s hair’s worth of differences between Catholicism and Protestantism. We’re ALL followers of G*d and Christ. The Thirty Years War is over, and such petty infighting could only benefit Satan.


130 posted on 05/26/2014 5:51:16 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (The last good thing that the UN did was Korea.)
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To: Dr. Thorne
MacArthur is a literalist, uncritical believer in the creation of the world in six literal days.

He is just as ignorant of Catholic dogma as he is of the creation of the universe.

The church is open to criticism on various grounds, as is any human institution. The problem with people like MacArthur is that their biases are based on false premises.

If for some reason you want to mount a credible attack on Catholicism, you will have to do better than to heave up this anachronistic palooka.

131 posted on 05/26/2014 5:51:58 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Boanarges

You were a Catholic for 50 years and never read anything in the Bible? did you never use a missalette which has the printed scriptures for every daily Mass?

A Mass included intercessory prayers, a reading from the Old Testament, a reading from the Epistles, and a reading from the Gospel. Then a short sermon follows, and then the Consecration - which is a reenactment of the Lord’s supper. The Acts of the Apostles describes the first gatherings of the Christians in such a manner when after they read from their scriptures, they discuss Jesus and his Gospel, and then they share in the ‘breaking of the bread’.


132 posted on 05/26/2014 5:52:16 PM PDT by Gumdrop (~)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Apparently you don’t believe in the omnipotence of God.


133 posted on 05/26/2014 5:58:16 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Gumdrop

Placemarker—
It’s been over 5 minutes since anyone posted... Did I miss the Rapture?

LOL


134 posted on 05/26/2014 5:58:37 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

The Bible is very clear that the dead are dead. Why do you think they’re in heaven? Many times throughout the Bible, it talks about David, Abraham, Isaac, etc., still being in the grave. If they’re still in the grave why would others be in heaven? Why would anyone be in Heaven if the day of judgement has not yet come?


135 posted on 05/26/2014 5:59:32 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: Rumplemeyer
I have a question for you Doc, if the Catholics are so misguided why are there 35,000 (+/-) different Protestant denominations and only one Catholic Church?

So since when is consensus a way to decide truth?

The whole Roman Empire worshiped the Emperor. until Christ came along, only citizens of a small country of Jews worshiped the one true God, until a small group of followers started worshiping Christ.

Under your theory, the consensus would claim the Emperor was God and the Jews and Christians were wrong.

A majority does not make truth. Truth makes truth.
136 posted on 05/26/2014 6:01:03 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: Dr. Thorne
"I heard that joke 50 years ago"

And that justifies it, how? All it tells me is that you and your buddies have been telling and snickering at sick, perverted rape jokes for 50 years.

137 posted on 05/26/2014 6:02:04 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: OneVike

That doesn’t explain why there are tens of thousands of Protestant groups.


138 posted on 05/26/2014 6:02:53 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Gumdrop

Bible study does not exist in the Catholic institution. It is absolutely nowhere to be found. Even my children made the remark to me in the last year how their Catechism classes never revolved around Bible study.

And BTW, no thanks to using a misalette as you point out. I’m sticking to the Word of God, the Holy Bible. It has set me free!


139 posted on 05/26/2014 6:03:47 PM PDT by Boanarges
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To: Boanarges
LOL -- you were 50 yrs old and had never delved into the faith, on your own, to discover its truth? You simply waited for some "friend" or door-to-door salesman to lead you somewhere? And that now means you are somehow "all knowing" (beyond what centuries of Christ's church taught millions before you were born) of the meaning of the God's Word?

Please. Spare me the waterworks. Your laziness is no virtue, Pope Boanarges.

140 posted on 05/26/2014 6:04:00 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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