Only time for one more tonight, but I KNEW you were typing up a long megilla!
So, discussions on rabbis for later, on your last point:
“And it came to pass, that he went through the corn fields on the sabbath day; and his disciples began, as they went, to pluck the ears of corn. And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the sabbath day that which is not lawful? And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they that were with him? How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him? And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.” (Mar 2:23-28)
WE take this to demonstrate that he was a Torah observant Jew of the Written and Oral Laws, wherein we teach clearly that in a matter of preserving life, “violate one Sabbath to keep many future Sabbaths.”
It’s lock-step with the Rabbi’s presentation. Your other quotes I’ll have to look into. It seems to me Mark ad-libbed the last part.
At the end of the class, the Rabbi speaks of Christendom pulling itself apart. Were you part of this fine thread at all GPH? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3165205/posts
I’ll wait in silence I guess. (Serenity now Serenity now!) (to quote Mr. Costanza)
The Jews do indeed agree with Christ on the matter, but Christ's larger point is that He is the Messiah, and, therefore, also the Lord of the Sabbath, being "greater than" the temple itself:
"Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless? But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple. But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless. For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day." (Mat 12:5-8)
I’ll wait in silence I guess.
I have no idea what you are going on about, but considering your silence to most of what I said, you are projecting.