Posted on 06/17/2014 6:17:41 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Get a clue!
Nothing of God is hidden.
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VERY, very well said, dear brother in Christ! Thank you!
"Historically; I cannot get any traction on this subject.. i.e. born again.."
"Understandable too.. it being so personal..
Seem to most its merely a bible meme.. they havnt thought deeply about.. Or deem it as a magical or miraclous event in their lives they cannot (actually) explain.."
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I believe I owe you an apology for the way I ended my #115 -- so, I DO apologize!
Silly me! In a thread on evolution, I understood that your "Is being born again.... EVOLUTION!?.... survival of the fittest?.. Intelligent design?..."
-- meant you wanted to discuss "EVOLUTION".
And -- I must admit that your smart#$$3d
"please try to pay attention.." remark --
-- after a long drive, a L-O-N-G wait (in a no-internet waiting room) trying to find out why I have lost much of the feeling in my left hand -- triggered an unworthy response in me. So, again, I apologize. I am not "done with you" (but I would prefer to end the discussion of "evolution" as [un]related to "the New Birth"). -- OK?--
If you are seriously interested in understanding "New Birth" (which, as you have observed, is a deeply personal subject) I will be more than happy to help you by sharing my own experience and explaining it as clearly as I can.
BTW, I appreciate MHGinTN's "raccoon" and "phase shift" analogy attempts toward that end, and I'm willing to enter into personal, friendly, open conversation (with no "sniping" from either side) with you. I will do my best to help you understand -- and -- unapologetically -- try to guide you to attain -- your own personal experience of the New Birth.
TXnMA
Since I mentioned you in # 144, here;s your courtesy ping to it...
FReepMails for you...
With those concepts in mind I'd like to revisit MHGinTN's mention of being born again as a kind of "phase shift."
Indeed, one of my favorite geometric physicists, P.S. Wesson, posits that physical death itself may be a phase change:
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20
I will swear to those observations in any court of law.
I felt the fresh chisel marks in the (muddy-water-filled, 3' above an nearly dry river -- in a drought) newly-carved "man track" on the WRONG side of that flipped slab. And it was my F-I-L's pocketknife I borrowed to demonstrate to him that the largest "Giant Man Track" was actually carved in MUD. I stuck it in to the full depth of its longest blade -- before I carved my "X" across the abomination.
By the way, guess whose name was on that "Bauanthropus" plaque?
I know who the "deliberate deceiver" really is. And I know who has made his shameful, scamful living off of that phony museum.
And -- I am a Christian, who believes devoutly in our Creator and His Creation.
I dig “phase shifts”... but it's a bit too high flautin for me..
Easier for me to envision a Space Suit for the the spirit..
so the spirit can function in three dimensions..
but Donkey/Rider also works..
Wish I could display my vision(s) that I had(on that).. BUT
many don't even believe in “visions”.. like me; I didn't either until I had one....lol. (actually several)..
Be hard for someone to convince me there is no such thing as “the spirit”... I was “there”..
Basically these convos are just entertainment to me...
But If had the freedom to do it.. it might blow a few minds the way things really are.. (that I SAW)..
I asked the Holy Spirit after them(visions) what was THAT all about..
Should I go go tell somebody about what I saw.. and Why? ME?..
The HS said you have been praying for this info for at least 40 years.. and you ask why?.. we both laughed(at least I did)..
“His” response was quite humorous.. “Go tell them or not.. because “they” will not believe you anyway”..
I like that “guy” the Holy Spirit.. so practical and even funny..
Because what I saw was quite different than anything I imagined in my wildest “perceptions”..
So different I cannot reveal them even to you.. my precious friend..
"Compression analysis"?? Faking paper is no (moral or physical) challenge at all for someone who will fake "Giant Man Tracks" -- as I observed directly.
Oh -- and you might want to visit Creation.com, which has this to say about Baugh and his claims:
"Many of Carl Baughs creation evidences. Sorry to say, we think that hes well meaning but that he unfortunately uses a lot of material that is not sound scientifically. So we advise against relying on any evidence he provides, unless supported by creationist organisations with reputations for Biblical and scientific rigour. Unfortunately, there are talented creationist speakers with reasonably orthodox understandings of Genesis who continue to promote some of the Wyatt and Baugh evidences despite being approached on the matter."
"Well meaning?" Hardly. "Tool of Satan" is more apropos...
But, go ahead and delude yourself. No doubt, it makes you feel "holier" than us mere Christians who testify to the truth... Enjoy the feeling -- for now... You'll get the chance to plead your case before the One who Knows the truth. Good luck with that.
No worries.. (( hug ))
Your false accusations will be your alone to account for when you stand at the Great White Throne.
I’m sure that this doesn’t bother you any more than it bothers your Father-in-law, and that is what is going to make that show so satisfying.
Creation.com is much like sopes.
Thank you. I will be praying for you...
May God always bless you, dear hosepipe!
I may have been a little too honest in that post...
Who would believe it... or even care...
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