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To: xzins
I am a lifelong member of the UMC myself-- stranded here in Liberal-dominated Northern Virginia.

One of the former members of my youth group is now a pastor. I am proud of this. But I am disappointed to see him go mushy on the marriage integrity question. He doesn't want to fight the culture war. What he fails to grasp is that if the culture war is truly lost, his flock will dissipate.

Giving in on same sex marriage is not going to put butts back in the pews. The demands for the church to excuse sins will only increase.

29 posted on 06/19/2014 3:44:06 PM PDT by Lysandru
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To: Lysandru; All

May I suggest the quick read copy (Kindle format) of A Prophetic Manifesto. . . perhaps you might forward a copy to the young pastor. . . only $2.99. I have sent several out to pastors, friends and relatives via Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Prophetic-Manifesto-David-Reagan-ebook/dp/B009DOZRHU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1403218075&sr=8-1&keywords=prophetic+manifesto


30 posted on 06/19/2014 3:49:57 PM PDT by Maudeen ("End Times Warrior - Just a Sinner Saved by Grace")
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To: Lysandru; Maudeen; luckystarmom

As a United Methodist military chaplain and as a UMC pastor, I’ve fought this for years. You know the groups — Good News, Confessing, IRD, etc. I’m an Asbury Seminary grad, and a mega-church pastor acquaintance, also an Asbury grad in the same time frame as me is inclined to see this as ‘we can just agree to disagree’. (Not just in our conversation but in our written rules.)

So, what I would consider a former evangelical UMC pastor of a mega-church has sought a broad highway of comfortable Christianity.

I truly hope the denomination holds the line in 2016 due to the African churches and then splits. I wonder which side this former evangelical will go with?


32 posted on 06/19/2014 3:59:07 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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