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1 posted on 06/23/2014 6:44:09 AM PDT by Gamecock
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2 posted on 06/23/2014 6:45:18 AM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: Gamecock

Desperate times called for desperate action.

I’m anathema to these guys, though not for every reason listed in the OP.


3 posted on 06/23/2014 6:48:51 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Gamecock

Though I am a Protestant who strongly disagrees with Trent and many of the doctrines of Rome (and therefore am under their anathemas), I do recommend reading these documents for a better understanding of the Reformation – and for proof that the Reformation still matters today.


I have an interesting “talent’ in my occupation as a Business analyst: I’ll get to know how the business works and their needs and pains, and then attack their IT requirements with little or no knowledge of the actual application.

What ends up happening is that I come up with ideas that seem obvious to me, but nobody else thought of because they are focused on the current IT application.

Same thing with the bible. I don’t approach the bible from a Catholic or protestant “here’s what this verse means” perspective. I simply read it, come up with questions, ask those that have studied the word more than me or from a different perspective, PRAY, and then come up with my own interpretations.

I’m a strong believer that YOPIOS is a very, VERY good thing. After all, my relationship with God and my salvation is a personal thing between me ang God. My church body can help me get clarity or warn me where I may be going a bit around the bend, but ultimately the decision and results of that decision is solely my responsibility.

This is why I am no longer a pre-tribulationist and believe the fate of the lost is annihilation. But those beliefs are not core. They could be changed if new information presented itself. Heck, it’s how they changed in the first place.

What is core is my relationship with Him.


4 posted on 06/23/2014 6:55:06 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Gamecock
This is one old misunderstanding that never dies. Of course you know that the anathemas of Trent were (and are) directed at Catholics who were (or are) embracing heresy.

An anathema can only apply to a member of the church that is declaring them.

Modern-day Protestants are not (in most cases have never been) members of the Catholic Church, so these anathemas from Trent DO NOT and CANNOT apply to them. They aren't heretics, they simply (from the Catholic point of view) hold erroneous views.

http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2007/01/catholic-understanding-of-anathemas-of.html

5 posted on 06/23/2014 7:03:22 AM PDT by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: Gamecock

Though I am a Protestant who strongly disagrees with Trent and many of the doctrines of Rome (and therefore am under their anathemas),

...well, you can ruminate about the injustice of all your anathemas in church someday, while your LGBT ministers are preaching about our need to be inclusive and free of judgmentalism...you know, just like Jesus...

...you must get a rush out of launching unprovoked attacks on others’ religions...I guess you think it makes you look witty and urbane, but actually, it makes you look childish and petulant...


6 posted on 06/23/2014 7:03:26 AM PDT by IrishBrigade (')
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To: Gamecock

Wow! A post countering Catholicism that actually has ZERO misstatements about what Catholics believe!

“Anathema” literally means, “to set away.” Catholics use this to mean an automatic excommunication.


7 posted on 06/23/2014 7:03:59 AM PDT by dangus
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I still don't know what is so Holy about Rome?

Weren't they the ones that nailed our Savior to the cross? And they are holy?

12 posted on 06/23/2014 7:12:32 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: Gamecock
**- If anyone…denies that wonderful and singular change of the whole substance of the bread into the body and the whole substance of the wine into the blood…which change the Catholic Church most aptly calls transubstantiation, let him be anathema.**

And Christ says that the opposite are anathema. I'll stick with Christ -- you can leave as some did in the Bible.

Gospel Jn 6:51-58

Jesus said to the Jewish crowds:
"I am the living bread that came down from heaven;
whoever eats this bread will live forever;
and the bread that I will give
is my flesh for the life of the world."

The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying,
"How can this man give us his flesh to eat?"
Jesus said to them,
"Amen, amen, I say to you,
unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood,
you do not have life within you.
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood
has eternal life,
and I will raise him on the last day.

For my flesh is true food,
and my blood is true drink.
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood
remains in me and I in him.

Just as the living Father sent me
and I have life because of the Father,
so also the one who feeds on me
will have life because of me.
This is the bread that came down from heaven.
Unlike your ancestors who ate and still died,
whoever eats this bread will live forever."


15 posted on 06/23/2014 7:24:43 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Gamecock

Wow! Lots of caps!


90 posted on 06/23/2014 4:24:05 PM PDT by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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