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To: Marie; vladimir998; daniel1212; GarySpFc; boatbums; metmom
Saul/Paul was *not* a Jewish rabbi. His teaching was not of Judaism. He was a Hellenist.

Marie, Vlad touched on this in his reply to you. However, I don't know where you come up with the above assertion. There is no evidence to support the above claim. We do have evidence of Paul being a Hebrew among Hebrews:

Philippians 3:(NASB)

2 Beware of the dogs, beware of the evil workers, beware of the false circumcision; 3 for we are the true circumcision, who worship in the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh, 4 although I myself might have confidence even in the flesh. If anyone else has a mind to put confidence in the flesh, I far more: 5 circumcised the eighth day, of the nation of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; as to the Law, a Pharisee; 6 as to zeal, a persecutor of the church; as to the righteousness which is in the Law, found blameless.

That is unless you view the above testimony as being false. I do not.

286 posted on 06/25/2014 11:56:39 AM PDT by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: redleghunter

I don’t know Paul. Never met the guy. I do know that he showed a profound misunderstanding of the Jewish faith and that tells me that he was not a properly educated Jew.

There are *many* Jews in the world that don’t understand the basics. They’re called “ploppers” because all they had to do to become a Jew was to plop out of a Jewish womb. Being Jewish requires no true faith or adherence to a belief system for those born to it.

I know that his Jewish contemporaries found him to be undesirable and I can see why. If he rode into town preaching some of the stuff that he said in his letters, he’d be considered quite offensive. (Just his take on women... sheesh! Jewish women always found power in their femininity and his suggestion that women sit down and shut up is really quite insulting.) Back then, Jewish women could divorce their husbands (for good reason), ruled their households, and sometimes ran businesses and managed the financials. (And we still do.)

The few things I cited before just scratch the surface of Paul’s misunderstanding of the Jewish people and faith. There are whole books on it.

If anyone’s *really* interested in why Jewish people have never run into a church to get Baptized into Christianity, check out: Why the Jews Rejected Jesus on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Why-Jews-Rejected-Jesus-Turning/dp/0385510225/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1403723777&sr=1-1&keywords=why+the+jews+rejected+jesus

Our ancestors were just as rational and thinking as we are and the didn’t make such decisions lightly.

You may not agree with it, but at least *try* to understand the situation from the Jewish viewpoint. Otherwise, it’s like you’re going into court, only hearing the prosecutor’s side of the argument, then making a judgement and you’re not even giving the defendant the opportunity to speak for himself or offer evidence on his own behalf.


291 posted on 06/25/2014 12:19:39 PM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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