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Pope Francis's Bad Examples (Intended Or Not) Continue To Emit Purification In The Church
Restore DC Cathholicism ^ | June 25, 2014 | restore-DC-Catholicism

Posted on 06/26/2014 11:03:05 AM PDT by ebb tide

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To: ebb tide

The headline indicates that the author has a very, very, very shaky grip on the English language.


21 posted on 06/26/2014 4:49:13 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

Yes, the word “purification” made no sense.


22 posted on 06/26/2014 4:57:31 PM PDT by ebb tide (Six feet deep and getting deeper.)
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To: redgolum

Oh, how strange.


23 posted on 06/26/2014 5:38:51 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SpirituTuo
While Liturgical Law does speak to the Mandatum (viri selecti), there are diocese that have received special permission to include women.

This "special permission" nonsense is a bunch of B.S.

For instance, it was only because the dissident Dutch bishops were giving Holy Communion in the paw, that Pope Paul VI gave them "special permission" to continue to do so, but nobody else was allowed to introduce such a sacrilegious, protestant practice.

Now, it's almost universal in the Novus Church, despite Pope Benedict's desire to stop it.

This is not mere "bickering". It's pointing out the destruction of faith (transubstantiation) and tradition.

Celebrating Ascension Thursday on Sunday is another prime example of the excesses and absurdity of "special permissions".

24 posted on 06/26/2014 5:45:16 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

You may not like them, but they are provided under Canon Law.

While I agree with many of your points, in many cases the instances are causing distraction from the real prize, Heaven.


25 posted on 06/26/2014 6:03:27 PM PDT by SpirituTuo
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To: SpirituTuo

Speaking of Heaven: After much instruction, when the angel gave Holy Communion to the Fatima children, he gave it to them on the tongue while they were on their knees.

Why do it like protestants do on earth?


26 posted on 06/26/2014 7:21:44 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: SpirituTuo
One cannot “screw up” in Purgatory. If you made to Purgatory, you will make it Heaven.

Since Purgatory is not Scriptural, just take the direct route and go straight to Heaven. :)

27 posted on 06/26/2014 7:23:21 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: SpirituTuo
You might want to read this.

Attempting serious Communion at an unserious liturgy

28 posted on 06/26/2014 7:37:37 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Colonel_Flagg; SpirituTuo

Purgatory is in Scripture. That’s where Christ descended between His Death and Resurrection.


29 posted on 06/26/2014 7:41:23 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Could he have meant “putrefaction”? That’s a word I often use with regard to the hierarchy.


30 posted on 06/27/2014 1:41:03 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Salvation

What is even odder is that one of my wife’s coworkers is a muslim, whose daughter is marrying a Catholic. The priest told the daughter that Catholics are pretty much muslims anyway.

Now that is third hand (from the daughter, to the mother, to my wife), but it matches what I have heard here.

Again, I respect a lot of the Catholics on FR, but there appears to be another Catholic religion practiced by a great many people.


31 posted on 06/27/2014 6:22:59 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: SpirituTuo
Regarding the prayers said in June, I think this quote makes the most sense “We do not pray together, but we stay together to pray,” which indicates it wasn’t a liturgical event. Rather, it was a time when individuals could ask God for peace, in their own voice.

IOW, for the Vicar of Christ to actively encourage and facilitate the practitioners of false religions is only a betrayal of Christ and His Church if such acts take place during a "liturgical event"?

32 posted on 06/27/2014 6:36:31 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: redgolum
Again, I respect a lot of the Catholics on FR, but there appears to be another Catholic religion practiced by a great many people.

Again, see my earlier post. You are correct.

33 posted on 06/27/2014 6:44:56 AM PDT by piusv
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To: ebb tide

I hear you, and agree with you. However, I see it as a peripheral issue, and not one that is going to put someone’s soul in a jeopardy.


34 posted on 06/27/2014 7:00:13 AM PDT by SpirituTuo
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To: BlatherNaut

No, I see it as accepting the human reality of disunity, but promoting believe in the God of Abraham. We have to start somewhere.

By encouraging trust in God, and by modeling peaceful, Christian behavior, the Pope encourages others to Christ. The Pope can’t coerce people to convert, but can compel them through example.

Besides, Judaism isn’t a false religion, as it was given to the Chosen People by God. Islam on the other hand...


35 posted on 06/27/2014 7:04:40 AM PDT by SpirituTuo
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To: piusv

I am glad at least someone admits it.

My bride is a Catholic, and she grew up in some rather orthodox dioceses. After moving out here, she was shocked at how bad it is.

I mean the diocese we currently live in has a lot of priests who are not Christian. If you say Jesus was NOT God from conception, you are at best an Arian.


36 posted on 06/27/2014 7:21:45 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: SpirituTuo
By encouraging trust in God, and by modeling peaceful, Christian behavior, the Pope encourages others to Christ.

The people he is "encouraging" already trust their own false perceptions of God. Such "encouragement" from him might reasonably be construed as tacit validation of their beliefs. Futhermore, his words and actions are creating confusion among his own sheep.

Besides, Judaism isn’t a false religion, as it was given to the Chosen People by God.

Neither is it salvific, according to Catholic teaching, yet Pope Francis frequently projects the opposite impression via his remarks and behavior.

37 posted on 06/27/2014 7:26:04 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

We are venturing into opinion.


38 posted on 06/27/2014 7:33:29 AM PDT by SpirituTuo
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To: SpirituTuo

Can you provide examples of pre-Vatican II popes that prayed with non-Catholics for any reason?


39 posted on 06/27/2014 8:02:09 AM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv

Not off the top of my head, but I don’t see the relevance.

Can’t you point to any Pre-Vatican II popes who used Twitter, or satellite phones, or microwaves?

If it was good enough for St. John Paul II, it is good enough for me:

St. John Paul launched the interreligious prayer for peace gatherings in Assisi in 1986. He asked Catholic, Orthodox, Muslim and Jewish leaders in particular to join him in Assisi in for a smaller gathering in 1993 as war raged in the Balkans. And, in the aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks in the United States, he and other religious leaders returned to Assisi in January 2002 to pray and proclaim to the world that violence committed in God’s name is an abomination.

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1402316.htm


40 posted on 06/27/2014 8:20:53 AM PDT by SpirituTuo
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