Posted on 06/27/2014 3:58:36 PM PDT by NYer
I guess Jesus was mistaken:
Luke 16:23-24
In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side.
So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’
Not any more, accept Mary, who was bodily assumed into Heaven! The rest, except for incorruptibles, their bodies have long since decomposed. It is their soul which is in Heaven.
Pray tell, what are the GPS coordinates for either Heaven or Hell? In which solar system to do they exist?
Since you can’t/won’t understand this concept, I can’t help you, and will no longer discuss it.
No; she wasn't.
What GPS co-oridnates was she standing at when it happened?
Was she dead or alive at the time?
Was she wearing that blue thing we always see her dressed in?
Since you seem to have no answers; you may as well leave the thread.
The Bible doesn’t indicate whether she was alive or dead upon her assumption. The Orthodox discuss the dormition of Mary, which suggests she physically passed away.
It is believed she died at Ephesus, as she was under the care and protection of St. John the Beloved.
As a widow, traditional dress would likely have been black. However, in the approved apparitions, she has appeared, at different times, in blue, white, and/or gold.
You seem unwilling to even question your beliefs, much less consider an alternate point of view. Most of your statements are reflexively defensive.
Where does Scripture teach that? Got a chapter and verse for that claim?
Earlier I saw a thread about ISIS or something where someone mentioned that the “Blessed Mary” herself intervened in battles to stop Muslims from invading Europe.
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Time for the pot and kettle graphic......
Catholics as a whole are singularly incapable of considering an alternate point of view.
If it conflicts with their cherished beliefs or if *sacred tradition* states otherwise, a person can't convince them even from Scripture. And then there's the complication of the church calling down anathemas for those who disagree with them on a great many points.
I suppose that answers the question, though, of why they refuse to consider something outside Catholicism. Why put your eternal destiny at risk by daring to cross the church which claims power to retain or remit sin.
That's quite a bit of power to hold over someone's head to compel obedience.
HMMMmmm...
It is believed she died at Ephesus, as she was under the care and protection of St. John the Beloved.
The discussion tried to make a sudden change in direction here.
It isn’t clearly stated, nor inferred, anywhere in Scripture. Therefore, the Church takes no position. Some things we just don’t know.
Yet...
Many things are not clearly stated, nor inferred, yet, the Church takes it upon itself to assume much. Some things should just be left alone; since they CLEARLY do not matter and wastes MUCH time.
You are entitled to your opinion.
Gee; thanks!
I’m ‘entitled’ to say that the RCC assumes a heck of a lot of stuff not in evidence; too.
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