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To: ebb tide

ebb tide:

What about a situation where a Man abandons a young wife with 2 kids, this hypothetical woman is say 22 years old. She raises those kids the best she can and lets say 10 to 12 years later, she is remarried. So she is now 32 to 34 years old. Lets assume 30 years after the she remarried, she is still faithfully married to the 2nd man and recall that the 1st husband just abandoned her. Is it not possible for a woman in that situation, even though lets say her first marriage was in a Catholic parish, that she could be allowed to take communion. Is that woman really an adulterer? Now, the husband who abandoned the young wife and if he remarried, then No, he is not allowed. Now that is my view, but I am not a priest, theologian, Bishop or Pope. I will abide by whatever discipline regarding Holy Communion Rome provides to best of my ability and with God’s Grace.

As for the South American woman you refer to, I heard press accounts of what happened. And I am aware the Papal Media Priest spokesman confirmed there was a conversation. How accurate the press accounts are, I am not sure. I have never heard the entire story from Pope Francis or the woman and I don’t really know her situation. All we know was their was a call. Maybe he told her to regularize what is in irregular marriage, i.e she had been married and divorced civilly several times, which is catamount to living in sin, but she has in essence never entered into a Sacrament of Holy Matrimony. So maybe the Pope told her to go to Confession, get her marriage regularized with the Church and be a good role model for her children by going to Holy Mass again every Sunday, etc.


147 posted on 06/28/2014 7:20:35 PM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: CTrent1564
What about a situation where a Man abandons a young wife with 2 kids, this hypothetical woman is say 22 years old.

Let's stop right there with your example of extreme circumstances. In today's Church, this young woman could take her case to a marriage tribunal board and plead her case. With that and fifty dollars, there's a good a chance she would be granted an annulment based on "someone wasn't mature enough to understand the full extent of what they were doing."

What Cardinal Kasper is proposing is far more encompassing as is the Orthodox Church's practice.

149 posted on 06/28/2014 8:23:33 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: CTrent1564

I think you are making a good point. How should the Church handle these types of situations? With the Gospel first, of course. However, we even see Jesus commenting on the Mosaic law with his Apostles gleaning wheat on the Sabbath. Is there wiggle room? If so, how much, etc.?


167 posted on 06/29/2014 9:53:14 AM PDT by SpirituTuo
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