You are arguing that the Holy Spirit is a "force." Do you actually believe that or are you just putting it out then as a hypothetical? "I believe the Holy Spirit is God, but I can see why it is ambiguous"? Can you be more clear then?
What in my posts causes you to arrive at such conclusion?
Do you actually believe that or are you just putting it out then as a hypothetical? "I believe the Holy Spirit is God, but I can see why it is ambiguous"? Can you be more clear then?
Show me in scripture where the apostles had a clear understanding of the Holy Spirit and it's relationship to Christ and God. There are none. Had it been important to God that we clearly understand his precise nature, the New Testament writers would have been crystal clear. Therefore, I conclude that whether a person believes in the Trinity, or not is not important to God so long as what a person believes concerning God, Christ and the Holy Spirit does not contradict other scripture.
As for what Jesus said about the Holy Spirit, very little is recorded about his teachings concerning the Holy Spirit. From the few verses generally regarded as genuine, Jesus describes the Spirit more as a distinct being than impersonal force. The question then becomes is the Holy Spirit a class of spirit beings like angels and cerubim, or is it divine? Scripture is not clear. The strongest indications of divinity are: 2 Cor 3:17-18, Phil 3:3 and John 16:8-11, 1 Cor 12:4-6, 2 Cor 13:14.
The triune formula used in Matt 28:19 may not have been spoken by Jesus but it's insertion by the writer shows that it was in use in the 1st century. Of the apostles, Paul and the author of Hebrews appear to have some concept of the three-fold Trinity but Paul only writes of it in two-fold terms. John seems to have the clearest grasp of the relationship between Father, Son and Spirit; John 1:33-34, John 14:16, John 14:26, John 20:21-22, John 16:15, 1 John 4:2 and 1 John 4:13-14.