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To: circlecity
This merely means that no prophecy contained in the bible was the personal opinion or interpretation of the prophet, but rather the direct world of God. This is made clear in the very next verse where Peter says, "for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God." The passage is assuring us that scripture is the word of God not the word of man.

I find that private interpretation of this scripture lacking :). 1. The verse stands on its own. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 2. It is then supported by a lengthy example that does not end in chapter one (chapter markings are to be avoided as delimiters of context and meaning).

For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. and it continues well past that, making mincemeat of the modern doctrine of OSAS.

3. The point is that private interpretation spawns false heresy which leads believers to fall away and be lost. Yes, the Scripture did not come from man, but from God; the second verse I quoted verse establishes this premise, not to end there, but to point out the real danger is false teaching, which is fed by the practice of private interpretation where every man and his brother is his own pope and comes up with thousands of new denominations, sects, and cults teaching heresies that destroy souls.

73 posted on 07/24/2014 5:20:32 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981
The point is that private interpretation spawns false heresy which leads believers to fall away and be lost. <>P>HMMMmmm...

Wouldn't "false heresy" equal Truth?

74 posted on 07/24/2014 5:31:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
...and cults teaching heresies that destroy souls.

While 'the CHURCH' teaches goofy stuff about Mary that is supposed to help SAVE souls...

75 posted on 07/24/2014 5:32:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981

Yet I can easily say that is just your private interpretation thus why should I consider it?


78 posted on 07/24/2014 6:02:32 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: af_vet_1981; circlecity; Elsie
In the phrase "no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation," the verb "is" translates from the Greek term γινεται, "ginetai," which speaks to the source or origin of something, not some third party's interaction with it. I am dashing off to work at the moment, so I have to be very short, but this passage is basically saying God's revealed truth does not originate from the prophet expounding on his own ideas, but originates from the movement of the Holy Spirit on the author. This is teaching inspiration. The contrast with false teachers is NOT their use of private interpretation or supplanting the role of the magisterium, but their contrivances as being destructive fables originating from their own thoughts rather than from divinely inspired writings. Which is the principle characteristic of a heresy, that it adds fable to Scripture, and so corrupts or denies access to the obvious light God's word would otherwise shed on our paths.
79 posted on 07/24/2014 6:03:33 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: af_vet_1981; Elsie; circlecity
The point is that private interpretation spawns false heresy which leads believers to fall away and be lost.

That is not the point, and your private interpretation which is not even official exegesis, wrests texts to teach 2Pt. 1:20 is about interpretation of Scripture apart from an supreme infallible magisterium, when it is actually is setting forth Scripture as the standard , and makes you a false teacher!

The context of 1Pt. 1:20 is clearly that of Divinely inspired prophecy , which is not a result of mans interpretive wisdom, but instead such were found "Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow." (1 Peter 1:11)

In contrast to the product of man's wisdom and false prophets and teachers, Peter tells us, "We have also a more sure word of prophecy," "for the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." (2 Peter 119,:21)

This sets forth Scripture as the supreme authority, not the assuredly infallible magisterium of Rome, which like false teachers, takes the danger of individual private interpretation to the corporate level, claiming to be teaching Divinely revealed truths but which are not taught in Scripture. Such as perpetual papal infallibility (which is the epitome of individual interpretation) and that of the magisterium when speaking in accordance with her infallibly defined formula, with the veracity of which resting upon that premise.

But the teaches of which yet can require varying degree of interpretation, even as to what level each teaching falls under, and thus what level of assent is required. Which basically ends up meaning implicit assent should be given to all. Which is cultic, not Christian.

88 posted on 07/24/2014 7:31:06 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: af_vet_1981; circlecity
The point is that private interpretation spawns false heresy which leads believers to fall away and be lost. Yes, the Scripture did not come from man, but from God; the second verse I quoted verse establishes this premise, not to end there, but to point out the real danger is false teaching, which is fed by the practice of private interpretation where every man and his brother is his own pope and comes up with thousands of new denominations, sects, and cults teaching heresies that destroy souls.

You may not realize this, but you just reinforced the concept of sola Scriptura. It is precisely because the Scriptures are from God and not from man that we CAN know truth from error. Just as those whom God used to pen the words they were inspired to write did not write their OWN thoughts and ideas, so those whom God gifts to the body of Christ to teach, edify and lead do not do so from their OWN thoughts and ideas. It is STILL the Holy Spirit directing whether through the inspiration of writing Scripture or interpreting Scripture.

Doesn't it seem unlikely that, two-thousand years removed from the physical presence and direct teachings of the Apostles, we STILL believe the same things they taught to those first believers if there was no Holy Spirit directing us STILL? How he does that is THROUGH the Scriptures - God's word, in which is power to transform even the most stubborn and intransigent heart. Of course, nobody really imagines that a full understanding of everything Scripture teaches us comes automatically or suddenly. Paul advised Timothy to STUDY the Scriptures so that he might be able to be an effective teacher. It is a life-long process of learning, experiencing and absorbing the depths of the richness we have been given in Scripture. I've been at it for over forty-five years and still stand amazed as layer upon layer of truth unfolds. I don't doubt at all that this book is NOT a product of human minds - no matter how brilliant they may have been.

God gave us this sacred writing so that we could know the truth - Scripture is the word of truth - and those who take up the mantle of teachers of the word MUST be held, and hold themselves, to what this word says plainly and clearly. Irenaeus said:

    Since, therefore, the tradition from the apostles does thus exist in the Church, and is permanent among us, let us revert to the Scriptural proof furnished by those apostles who did also write the Gospel, in which they recorded the doctrine regarding God, pointing out that our Lord Jesus Christ is the truth, and that no lie is in Him.... Moreover, they possess no proof of their system, which has but recently been invented by them...Such, then, is their system, which neither the prophets announced, nor the Lord taught, nor the apostles delivered, but of which they boast that beyond all others they have a perfect knowledge. They gather their views from other sources than the Scriptures... (Irenaeus, Against Heresies)

122 posted on 07/24/2014 1:41:52 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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