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To: NKP_Vet
2,000 years of observing the Eucharist, the REAL PRESENCE of Jesus

The term "Real Presence" is said to not originally be a Catholic term at all, but that it history is mostly Anglican.

2,000 years of observing the Eucharist, the REAL PRESENCE of Jesus in the Mass, observed since the very beginning of Christianity, observed by more Christians around the world than the couple million protestants that make fun of it and pick and choose what they want to believe in the Bible. I rest my case. You my friend, you are seriously outnumbered.

I see, So the term "Real Presence" came from Catholics who believed in transubstantiation, and Truth in Christianity is decided by a church that subjects Scripture to herself, versus what the NT church in Scripture was taught?

Among other contradictions and contrasts , you have an approx 1900 year old complete Bible, which nowhere teaches literally eating flesh as a means of gaining spiritual and eternal life, nor of a church in which doing so was the "source and summit" of its faith, with zero "priests" dispensing changed flesh and blood as part of their ordained duties, and instead they are "nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine," (1Tim. 4:6) with preaching being their required main function, (1Tim. 3:2; 2Tim. 4:1,2) and which are not once titled "priests."

All of which can be soundly established. You are seriously outweighed!

Even the egotistical Luther believed in the Eucharist and the Real Presence

You are using the term loosely, which is also necessary for your claimed consensus of CFs. Luther is more closely associated with consubstantiation, which some CFs are also seen to be, and which is not the same.

But invoking CFs or Luther as reproving us simply examples the error of RCs , which looks to men over Scripture, and thus their desperate polemics RCs either fault us for following or not following Luther!

101 posted on 08/01/2014 1:14:36 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

Catholics for 2,000 years, since Christ instituted it himself, have been partaking in the blood and body of their Lord and Savior at each and every Mass. Protestants on the other hand just make fun of the sacrament the way they make fun of anything Catholics do. High Anglicans, the part of the Anglican Church that retained most of the customs and liturgy of the Catholic Church after Henry the 8th made his own religion called the Anglican Church, of course believe in the Real Presence. Any REAL christian does.


104 posted on 08/01/2014 1:53:45 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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