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To: raybbr

My initial impulse was to criticize your observations and remarks, but upon reflection, it’s quite clear that your comment is actually a representative point of view of the neo-Catholic Church. You (along with the priests and bishop who taught you to think as you have) precisely capture the heart and soul of what the modern Church is about today––each other. Not God, but simply the relationship and interactions between our neighbors and friends. This is not Catholicism; it actually is Protestantism.
Many years ago, before the Church turned left at Vatican II and embraced Protestantism (and humanism), a Catholic attended Mass for precisely the reason notaliberal gave: to see and receive Jesus Christ in the flesh––to become one with Him. When we entered the Church in those pre-1960 days we remained silent because we were in the presence of God. If we had to speak to someone it was done in a respectful whisper. No one ever clapped in a Church. Women wore veils and everyone knew they were in a holy place.
Today, the Church that you cheerlead has been decimated by the modernists. If there is a tabernacle at all, it is more often than not placed off to the side. The vast majority of those Catholics who are still attending Mass, believe, like the Protestants, that the Holy Eucharist is merely a symbol of Jesus Christ.


110 posted on 08/01/2014 3:11:16 PM PDT by tomsbartoo (St Pius X watch over us)
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To: tomsbartoo
Your post is filled with presumptions, assumptions and misunderstanding.

First, I am not "cheerleading" the Catholic Church.

You (along with the priests and bishop who taught you to think as you have) precisely capture the heart and soul of what the modern Church is about today––each other.

Not even sure where you got that from. Surely not from my post.

Not God, but simply the relationship and interactions between our neighbors and friends.

Really? You assume that's what I think from my post?

The vast majority of those Catholics who are still attending Mass, believe, like the Protestants, that the Holy Eucharist is merely a symbol of Jesus Christ.

I've never met anyone who thinks that. We all receive Communion with the belief that it IS Christ.

Your post is a declaration of your self assumed superiority when it comes to beliefs regarding the mass and the Catholic church. Your post is pretty typical for a "holier than thou" Catholic of which there many here on FR. You preach instead of try to teach. You approach posters like me with the attitude that I can't possibly know as much about Catholicism as you nor can I possibly be able to understand Catholicism as well as you. All that from a two sentence post.

119 posted on 08/01/2014 6:32:07 PM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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