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To: miss marmelstein

When I go to Mass on Sunday it’s between God and me, I don’t want to have a relationship with anyone during Mass but Jesus


7 posted on 07/31/2014 7:25:36 PM PDT by notaliberal (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle,)
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To: notaliberal

When I go to Mass on Sunday it’s between God and me, I don’t want to have a relationship with anyone during Mass but Jesus”””

Wow! “Whenever two or more are gathered in My name.”

Why bother going? Why not just sit outside in your car and listen?


14 posted on 07/31/2014 7:33:33 PM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: notaliberal

I always take a pew in the back of the church - even during a Latin Mass. The most wonderful Masses of my childhood were the Monday-Friday Mass at 8am at my Catholic school. During the winters, the nuns locked the school doors and the only relief from the cold weather was going to Mass. No sermon and just a quiet, meditative Mass. So beautiful.


19 posted on 07/31/2014 7:38:11 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: notaliberal
"When I go to Mass on Sunday it’s between God and me, I don’t want to have a relationship with anyone during Mass but Jesus"

which is why I resent having to stand after receiving communion....I want to do what my mother did...and that was to kneel, folding your hands over your eyes and saying some quiet prayers to the Lord....

20 posted on 07/31/2014 7:39:51 PM PDT by cherry
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To: notaliberal
When I go to Mass on Sunday it’s between God and me, I don’t want to have a relationship with anyone during Mass but Jesus

Amen (I agree)

21 posted on 07/31/2014 7:40:09 PM PDT by eeriegeno (<p>)
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To: notaliberal

So you don’t like being a part of Christ’s body? You want to go it alone, just you and Jesus?

I always cringe when people respond “God hear our prayers” because it is “God hear our prayer”, it is one prayer prayed by us all with God, for God, as one body.


39 posted on 07/31/2014 8:21:54 PM PDT by tiki
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To: notaliberal; raybbr; EBH; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; ...
When I go to Mass on Sunday it’s between God and me, I don’t want to have a relationship with anyone during Mass but Jesus

I read these type of post with incredulity, as the only clear description of the Lord's supper, the "feast of charity," (Jude 1:12) after the gospels is 1Cor. 11:20-34 , and in which the Lord's death is proclaimed, shown, declared, (v. 26) by how they showed their unity with Christ and thus for each other whom He died for (Act 20:28) in taking part in this communal meal.

Thus when they therefore came "together into one place" to eat the Lord's supper, they really were not, "this is not to eat the Lord's supper. For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken...and shame them that have not," "not discerning the Lord's body." (1 Corinthians 11:20,21,29)

For they were treating others are if they were not bought by the sinless shed blood of Christ, by going ahead to eat independently of others as it were a restaurant, and even apparently filling their face (drunken) while others were hungry.

Thus the solution to prevent their condemnation for acting contrary to the sacrificial love Christ showed in His death, and which they were supposed to be showing:

"Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come." (1 Corinthians 11:33-34)

And this focus upon the church as the body of Christ and members in particular continues into the next chapter. This is quite different from the "Jesus and men" idea and in which the elements consumed are the whole focus.

Even the Catholic NAB notes states concerning v. 28:

The self-testing required for proper eating involves discerning the body (1 Cor 11:29), which, from the context, must mean understanding the sense of Jesus’ death (1 Cor 11:26), perceiving the imperative to unity that follows from the fact that Jesus gives himself to all and requires us to repeat his sacrifice in the same spirit (1 Cor 11:18–25). - http://usccb.org/bible/1corinthians/11

This does mean saying "peace be with you" and or handshakes are to be part of liturgy, which tend toward being perfunctory, but such should precede worship and be spontaneous, and believers are commanded, "Salute one another with an holy kiss. The churches of Christ salute you." (Romans 16:16) And the apostles gave each other "the right hands of fellowship." Gal. 2:9)

Yet the theology of the Eucharist itself is a perversion of Scripture.

49 posted on 07/31/2014 9:40:37 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: notaliberal

And let us consider one another, to provoke unto charity and to good works: Not forsaking our assembly, as some are accustomed; but comforting one another, and so much the more as you see the day approaching. — Hebrews 10:24-25, DRA

What does this say about a “sign of peace” or a word of encouragement in the Mass?


102 posted on 08/01/2014 1:24:59 PM PDT by Chaguito
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