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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
1) Peter did indeed go to Rome. He referred to "The Church here in Babylon," one of the names which Christians referred to Rome by.

No, he was in actual Babylon. There were the Judaeans who were taken captive by the Babylonians still there. Plus there were two Jewish universities that needed to hear the Word. The apostles were sent to the 12 tribes, Babylon would have been a natural choice for Peter. Paul was sent to the gentiles making Rome a natural choice for him.

2) What heresies,...

What heresies? lol How about calling men "father", how about praying to the queen of heaven, how about selling indulgences, statue worship, satanic symbolism all over the robes of the priests, the miter dagon fishhead the pope wears, to name a few.

... what gall of bitterness?

2000 years of murders! Burning people at the stake! Ring a bell? lol

3) Going by insurence statistics, Protestant Churches today harbor more pedophilia than the Catholic Church did at the height of the crisis.

Not my church. My church consists of me and my friends, and our record is zero incidents. Stay away from big churches!

I don't feel like digging up the links, but they are in my comments if you care to.

A big church is a big church, and the bigger the worse in a lot of cases. Big churches attract the worst kinds of people, they love that power.

4) What specific evil acts of the Jesuits?

They are the CIA of the Catholic church, carrying out false flag operations, assassinations, even killing popes that they didn't like. Jesuits are really big into homosexuality today. When Revelation speaks of the whore of Babylon being burned with fire by the ten kings, I strongly suspect that it will be the Jesuits that burn Rome. Look what your first Jesuit pope is doing, destroying the Catholic Church as we know it. The bible says it will be a time to rejoice, because of the 2000 years of murders and heresies that the church has done, even though it is another evil entity that does the burning. And even look at Free Republic, how Catholics are so bitter, telling Protestants they are all going to hell. Protestants never say all Catholics are going to hell, it's the Catholics that have the gall of bitterness, and this has led to 2000 years of atrocities.

WHy call anyone, including your own father, father? The bible does not forbid the use of the word 'father,' it forbids viewing anybody but God as your father, king, and foundation.

I call my father "father" because of the physical component of procreation. Catholics do not call the pope father because of anything physical. They see him as Jesus or God.

Which is why God gave us His One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church, through which He gives us His truth and grace.

What a horrible job that church has done throughout the ages if that were the case! I would hope that the Catholic Church is not the example set by God. I know it's not.

Doesn't matter what he appreciates. Church teachings do not regard the personal opinion of a given pope.

Wh...wh...what?! lol

Unity through strength. Only since all this diversity crap has been celebrated has America gone down the tubes. And please, give me a break. Protestants have the same history of killing, torturing, etc, as Catholics. I truly laugh when Protestants whine about the inquisition, because such a complaint is insupportable. Protestants through the ages are equally guilty.

Oh please. lol My church of me and my friends is guilty of no murders or torture, I know that.

Precision is not your strong point, is it? Roughly half of American Catholics support Obama, just as (gasp) roughly half of American Protestants. The personal sins of a pope, Francis saying nice stuff about Islam, crapping on capitalism, etc, do not effect the dogma of the Church. Contrary to popular Protestant belief, Catholics don't consider the pope perfect.

I'll remember that as I see the ring kissing and the thronging crowds at St Peter's (wrongly named) basilica. lol

54 posted on 11/16/2014 4:27:21 AM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
What heresies? lol How about calling men "father",

What do you call your father?

Have you ever called anyone "teacher"?

Jesus statement is simply hyperbole.

"But you are not to be called ‘rabbi,’ [teacher] for you have one teacher, and you are all brethren. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. Neither be called ‘masters,’ for you have one master, the Christ" (Matt. 23:8–10)
Yet Paul tells us, ""God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers" (1 Cor. 12:28). And "his gifts were that some should be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers" (Eph. 4:11) Paul refers to himself as a spiritual father. "I appeal to you for my child, Onesimus, whose father I have become in my imprisonment" (Philem. 10).

Not my church. My church consists of me and my friends,

The history of the private interpretation of Scripture is the disintegration of Christendom, in contradiction to Christ's desire, and the proliferation of errors, up to an including the Trinity. (Oneness Pentecostalism). All of these diverse groups claim "the Bible alone" as the sole or ultimate rule of faith.

Ironically, this doctrine is not found in the Bible.

55 posted on 11/16/2014 5:13:45 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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