if by condemning sodomy, you mean free sodomy, i would agree
but when there’s a cost to it, the catholic church and some professed catholics on this forum have seemingly chosen denial, delay and lawyering up
(the delay and lawyering up are institutional not a reference to members of this forum)
i don’t live far from the diocese of wilmington
not sure there’s ever been official condemnation from the church
my church- like the catholic church has conflicted positions, conflicted members and conflicted associations
but i don’t know of anyone being arrested for being pro-life on one of our affiliated campuses as happened at notre dame a few years back
homosexual marriage is another issue- officially my church is opposed, but practically it is divided as i feel certain you’d find among catholic congregants as well
i live in a relatively conservative part of the country, so the local views tend to reflect that- but we make no pretense that all our members, all our churches, all our clergy, all our universities march in lock step
when we look over the horizon of those associated with our church, we tend to see flawed humans who are fallible and who sin; who need grace and who should show grace; we do not see ourselves as one cookie cutter voting bloc on any issue
we take positions as a church
as a local body
as individuals
those positions are not always the same
this, i believe happens in your church as well
for crying out loud, most catholics on this group don’t agree with much of what the current pope says
we wrestle with weaknesses
we condemn sexual abuse in all forms
and all the more when in comes from a person in authority
we are imperfect
so imperfect that i may need to walk away from the organization in the future
birth control is not a subject you’ll find many protestant churches take a stand on- so it’s odd you would bring it up- you might as well ask me our position on the real presence or purgatory
You may have heard of the vision of Pope Leo XIII. It is said that in the 1880’s Pope Leo had a vision of a conversation between Christ and Satan. Satan bragged that if he was given 100 years he would destroy the Catholic church. Our Lord reportedly assented.
Our Lady, appearing in Quito, Ecuador in 1610 said this: I make it known to you that from the end of the 19th century and shortly after the middle of the 20th century…. the passions will erupt and there will be a total corruption of customs (morals)….
“They will focus principally on the children in order to sustain this general corruption. Woe to the children of these times! It will be difficult to receive the Sacrament of Baptism, and also that of Confirmation…
“As for the Sacrament of Matrimony… it will be attacked and deeply profaned… The Catholic spirit will rapidly decay; the precious light of the Faith will gradually be extinguished… Added to this will be the effects of secular education, which will be one reason for the dearth of priestly and religious vocations.
“The Sacrament of Holy Orders will be ridiculed, oppressed, and despised… The Devil will try to persecute the ministers of the Lord in every possible way; he will labor with cruel and subtle astuteness to deviate them from the spirit of their vocation and will corrupt many of them. These depraved priests, who will scandalize the Christian people, will make the hatred of bad Catholics and the enemies of the Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church fall upon all priests…
“Further, in these unhappy times, there will be unbridled luxury, which will ensnare the rest into sin and conquer innumerable frivolous souls, who will be lost. Innocence will almost no longer be found in children, nor modesty in women. In this supreme moment of need of the Church, the one who should speak will fall silent.”
Our Lady appeared at Akita, Japan in 1973 and said this:
“The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, bishops against other bishops. The priests who venerate Me will be scorned and opposed by their confreres (other priests). Churches and altars will be sacked. The Church will be full of those who accept compromises and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord.”
Catholics are not obligated to believe these apparitions but I for one do. The point is, the Church has been infiltrated. Infiltrated by Satanic forces, communists, Masons and homosexuals who seek her destruction. The smoke of Satan, as Pope Leo III described it, has entered the church and that is why so much confusion and loss of faith is being seen today. The Church is undergoing the Passion of Our Lord.
Unfortunately things are going to get rough.