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To: redleghunter

You said “ after his second coming” . This is what I am not seeing in the verses you propose, since Jesus is reigning now and the second coming has not occurred as yet.


445 posted on 08/26/2014 3:48:15 AM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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You said “ after his second coming” . This is what I am not seeing in the verses you propose, since Jesus is reigning now and the second coming has not occurred as yet.

I will lay out the very clear chronological order of Revelation 19-22 below. Out of professional courtesy please read it:

Revelation 19 records the following:

Starting in Revelation 19:7 we have the marriage of the Lamb with His wife. This occurs in Heaven. So the elect/church are already there before the second coming. Here it goes:

Revelation 19:

7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

Event one, marriage supper of the Lamb. Next event, still in Revelation 19 is the Second Coming of Jesus Christ with His saints/elect, those clothed in the white linen:

11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.

17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

The above outlines literal future events. (1) Marriage supper of the Lamb; (2) then Second Coming with the bride; (3) Conquering Messiah destroys kings of the earth, the beast and false prophet captured and thrown into the lake of fire. This ends chapter 19 but not the dialogue, it continues to Revelation chapter 20:

Revelation chapter 20 overview of events as continued from Revelation 19: (4)Satan is bound for a 1,000 years. This is after #3 above. Starting with Revelation 20:1-3

And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Starting in Revelation 20 verse 4 we have event (5) first judgment and first resurrection:

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Then the next event (6) Satan loosed out of his prison. Continuing in Revelation chapter 20:

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. 10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Then event (7) the Great White Throne (GWT) Judgment follows. This event ends with the second death. Continuing in Revelation chapter 20:

11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

This completes chapter 20 of Revelation. As we all know, chapters and verses were a later add on so the events flow into chapter 21.

In chapter 21 we have the following events. I will let the readers reference the scriptures:

Event (8): Chapter 21 the new heaven and new earth; John sees at this time the New Jerusalem coming down from God out of Heaven. Then the remainder of chapter 21 through the end of chapter 22 we have a description of the new Jerusalem and how life will be in the Glorious Presence of the Lord.

This is very straight forward. It is right there in the text and not masked in riddles or allegory.

Another interesting note from chapter 21 is the use of 'resurrection' when stating the first resurrection. It is from the Greek 'anastasis'. Later at the GWT Judgment (the second judgment) 'anastasis' is not used at all. There is only death and judgment...specifically the second death is mentioned but not life eternal.

453 posted on 08/26/2014 11:22:21 AM PDT by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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