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To: redleghunter

You are attempting to make a detailed schedule out of an overview!

The resurrection is what you are calling a “translation” which is nowhere in God’s word.

We will literally be given a new birth in a body suitable for the realm of the Father, and it will be just exactly as Paul explained it. There is no pre-trib rapture, and as John 3:13 says, NO MAN HAS ASCENDED INTO HEAVEN.

The dead in him will be first, then the living, at the last trump, which is the exact end of Satan’s tribulation of the saints. Satan is not bound at this point, that happens after the battle which happens when we return with him to Earth.

The ideas you offer are all man made, not in any way in agreement with the word (all of the word, not some clipped verses, or clipped chapters either)

You have to accept the word as written. Rev 15:1-4 describes the scene immediately after the first resurrection, “those that had obtained victory over the beast and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name.” How did they get there? - Go back one more chapter. At ch 14:1-5 we see that those that were faithful to Yehova and to the Lamb have been redeemed out from among men.

How does this fit your imagined time table for chapter 19?
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455 posted on 08/26/2014 11:41:35 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
There is no pre-trib rapture, and as John 3:13 says, NO MAN HAS ASCENDED INTO HEAVEN.

"WHEW!", says Mary!

462 posted on 08/26/2014 1:33:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor

Try this instead:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3193827/posts?page=453#453

And I never indicated a pre-trib rapture. See link above for the detailed order of events to come.


464 posted on 08/26/2014 1:45:23 PM PDT by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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