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To: Campion
The assertion that Muslims profess to adore the God of Abraham is about as far as the Vatican Council can press the issue, and even that assertion is only as good as the Muslims wish to make it.

But it went beyond that. Finish reading the statement out of the CCC.

Here it is again......

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P29.HTM

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims."The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."330

About the only thing correct in that statement is that muslims profess to worship the God of Abraham. Everything else is so wrong.

The Catholic church right here in their own words states that they adore the same God.

Salvation is found through Jesus Christ, and none other. Peter says that there is no other name under heaven by which me MUST be saved. (Acts 4:12)

It's not simply a matter of acknowledging the Creator.

And in first place is the MUSLIMS?

Not the Jews who DO worship the same God, the God of the OT?

And before non-Catholic Christians who also DO worship the God of the Bible and profess faith in Jesus?

In first place is the muslims, who the church fought in the Crusades? The same ones who hack off people's heads for not converting to islam? The same ones who fly planes into buildings in the name of Allah?

That same God?

Will you wake up and actually READ what your church is saying and think it through yourself instead of believing what you are told to believe? What has been *interpreted* for you?

36 posted on 08/21/2014 6:51:02 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
And in first place is the MUSLIMS?

The Jews are discussed in an earlier paragraph. I agree the catechism is a disaster but in this case you're barking up the wrong tree, the muslims are the first among the heathen to be discussed.

38 posted on 08/21/2014 7:22:44 AM PDT by Legatus (Either way, we're screwed.)
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To: metmom
...the Jews who DO worship the same God, the God of the OT

Sorry, metmom. Scripture is very clear. The God of the OT is the same God of the NT. To deny the Son is to deny the Father. Jews do not worship the same God. The Trinity cannot be divided.
59 posted on 08/21/2014 7:40:53 PM PDT by armydoc
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