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To: Legatus

That’s not what it says.

There’s a difference between what the CCC actually says and what Catholics say it means.

Instead of going by the *interpretation* offered by the church to excuse what is said, maybe the someone just ought to take a good hard look at what is really being said.

The only ones who *know* what is *really meant* are those Catholics who have been told otherwise by their church. The rest of the world, with good reading comprehension, takes the words written down and validated by the RCC itself, at face value.

If what is said isn’t what is meant, then it behooves someone in the RCC to rewrite it so it actually reflects what they mean, instead of just going around telling everyone else they’re wrong.


40 posted on 08/21/2014 7:48:56 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

The FRoman Catholic interpretation of their own teaching is so funny.


41 posted on 08/21/2014 8:07:15 AM PDT by Gamecock (Not responsible for errors resulting from posting via my "smart" phone.)
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To: metmom; Legatus
JPII's catechism does make that point confusing. It's based on the Vatican II document "Lumen Gentium". This is the section it comes from:

Finally, those who have not yet received the Gospel are related in various ways to the people of God.(18*) In the first place we must recall the people to whom the testament and the promises were given and from whom Christ was born according to the flesh.(125) On account of their fathers this people remains most dear to God, for God does not repent of the gifts He makes nor of the calls He issues.(126) But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind....

You'll notice it speaks of the Jews first, then the Muslims. The wording is awful for sure. Par for the course.

48 posted on 08/21/2014 9:26:46 AM PDT by piusv
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To: metmom
....”Instead of going by the *interpretation* offered by the church to excuse what is said, maybe the someone just ought to take a good hard look at what is really being said”.......

There is nowhere in the catechism where a catholic is responsible to do any defense of the magisterium..only to blindly accept it's teachings as true. The defense of the magisterium appears to be directed to those of Priests and other's in position and leadership. Therefore what they say and how they defend must be acceptable to the people.

49 posted on 08/21/2014 9:31:11 AM PDT by caww
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To: metmom
....”Instead of going by the *interpretation* offered by the church to excuse what is said, maybe the someone just ought to take a good hard look at what is really being said”.......

There is nowhere in the catechism where a catholic is responsible to do any defense of the magisterium..only to blindly accept it's teachings as true. The defense of the magisterium appears to be directed to those of Priests and other's in position and leadership. Therefore what they say and how they defend must be acceptable to the people.

50 posted on 08/21/2014 9:31:11 AM PDT by caww
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