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To: piusv
So I guess you don’t call your dad “father”.

Take it in context.

Jesus is clearly talking about calling religious leaders by the title *Father*.

Additionally, the argument doesn't hold water because even if everyone around the world disobeys the command and calls their father *Father* of Dad, or Abba, or whatever, how does that justify the church and Catholics disobeying the clear command of Jesus?

Everyone else is wrong and sins, so we can too? No big deal?

Did Jesus tell us not to call religious leaders *Father * or not? Then how does one excuse, or justify, disobedience?

And just for kicks and giggles, just what would you propose a child call his male parent?

Hey you? Sir? Husband of my mother? Male Parental Unit?

30 posted on 08/24/2014 9:17:43 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom; piusv; HarleyD
Jesus is clearly talking about calling religious leaders by the title *Father*.

Beyond that He is reproving the love of titles, and uses hyperbole to do so. In so doing the Lord is not rejecting calling any man father, or even one referring to himself as being a father in the spiritual sense, as Paul did to Timothy, "my own son in the faith," (1Tim. 1:2; cf. 1 Cor. 4:17) and Corinthians, "for I have begotten you through the gospel." (1 Cor. 4:15)

Nor is calling one a master forbidden, which slaves are enjoined to obey, but it is the love of titles such as seen in Rome that is censured, in which, besides distinctively titling clergy "priests" contrary to Scripture, they are all supposed to be called "father" even by those they have not begotten through the gospel, which they do not do anyways, being in need of conversion themselves.

But Most Rev. Dr. Henry Edward Cardinal Manning, Lord Archbishop of Westminster, states "The only Divine evidence to us of what was primitive is the witness and voice of the Church at this hour." - he Temporal Mission of the Holy Ghost: Or Reason and Revelation

47 posted on 08/24/2014 12:14:46 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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