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To: CTrent1564; daniel1212
Saint Augustine and Fr. Bartunek are making different theological points and while they are different they are not opposed to each other. I 1) Believe in the Holy Trinity [Faith in God] and 2) believe that God sustains me via the Eucharist.

Augustine is quite clear in explaining how it is the Jews may "obey the precept" that Christ commands, and this Augustine says is obeyed by believing, without use of "teeth and stomach." If that is not how the precept is obeyed, then Augustine is either wrong or telling lies. One cannot then read the same text and then claim that "teeth and stomach" is mandated by Christ using the same precept. You are merely making an assertion without engaging in any analysis of what the text actually says. This, again, is just your catholic faith speaking, which molests not only the scripture, but even the church fathers too.

306 posted on 08/26/2014 2:38:03 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Greetings:

Ok greetings, says you. But in reality, I could really don’t care what you Protestants think about the Eucharistic Doctrine of the Catholic Church. You think and believe what you want.

At the point of the discussion, the dialogue has not moved beyond eating and drinking food. They, the Jews were looking for food that only nourished them in the temporal sphere. Once he gets them open to believing how He {Jesus} is ,the dialogue moves into the bread of life discourse and the mana as a prefigurement of His Body and Blood is there, mana was something God gave the ancient Jews to eat that helped them live on their journey through the Desert, the Eucharist/Body and Blood of Christ is spiritual food for the soul that nourishes us on the journey of Life.

I stand by that understanding, you do not, fair enough, end of story.


308 posted on 08/26/2014 3:12:58 PM PDT by CTrent1564
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