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To: CTrent1564
I agree that the Catholic position is infused Grace, the Protestant is not infused but more like a covering of Grace.

Of course you agree that the Catholic position is infused Grace, as you must, justifying one based upon actually making him Godly enough for Heaven via baptismal regeneration. And with that as a basis one must maintain that pure state to enter Heaven, and thus they usually end up suffering in mythical "Purgatory" commencing at death in order to atone for sins and once again become good enough to enter glory.

Which is in contrast to salvation by grace being that of justifying the UnGodly in conversion by faith being counted as righteousness, on Christ's expense and credit, though in the NT he is also regenerated. Yet the resultant works effected by faith justify him as one who has salvific faith, as works are faith in action (Jesus saw their faith:...." Mark 2:5). Those who obey Christ are those who believe on Him and thus are saved. And Reformers stressed that saving faith will “necessarily” produce good works, because justification and sanctification are inseparable.

For justification to be on the basis of the holiness of interior renewal by infused sanctifying grace (via baptismal regeneration) then Abraham must have been born again when God counted his faith as righteousness in Gn. 15:6, which Paul invokes for justification by faith without works in Rm. 4, as well as such men as the penitent publican in Lk. 18.

In conversion, the sinner is drawn thru grace to Christ, (Jn. 6:44; 12:32) his heart opened, (Acts 16:14) and granted repentant faith, (Acts 11:18 Eph. 2:8) so that by grace he does what he normally would not and could not do, which is effectually believe on the Lord Jesus to save him as a damned and contrite sinner by His sinless shed blood. But even the souls response in believing and calling upon the Lord, or any other work, does not earn one one eternal life, though his works testify to him being a believer and being fit for being recompensed by the Lord in covenantal grace, in which faith as seen by works having great recompense of reward, (Heb. 10:35) though apart from being justified by faith in Christ they actually deserve Hell fire.

But it matters not what Scripture says anyway to you, except as to how it can be used to support Rome, which is what determines your conclusion.

360 posted on 08/27/2014 6:04:57 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

I agree with the Catholic Notion of infused Grace, not Imputed or Forensic Protestant notion.

End of story


362 posted on 08/27/2014 7:28:10 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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