[roamer_1]

[roamer_1:] 'Father', to my knowledge, has no honorific among the Hebrews beyond the normal patriarchal sense,

And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, [...]

Elijah was "father" and "master" to Elisha in Hebrew.

Sorry, but I can't accept that 'my father, my father' as an honorific title... or rather, as a basis for proof of a commonly used honorific title. It is an excited utterance under great stress. In fact, it is remarkable in it's uniqueness - if it were a common thing (as 'master' is), then we should see Elisha calling Elijah 'father' all the time.

[Springfield Reformer]

True. An honorific would be some stately addition to a name done routinely as a matter of expectation. There is some literature that reflects this using abba, but I am at work and haven’t had a decent opportunity to check primary sources. I plan on looking at it today or tomorrow & will ping you when I post it.

Peace,

SR

[af_vet_1981]

Sorry, but I can't accept that 'my father, my father' as an honorific title... or rather, as a basis for proof of a commonly used honorific title. It is an excited utterance under great stress. In fact, it is remarkable in it's uniqueness - if it were a common thing (as 'master' is), then we should see Elisha calling Elijah 'father' all the time.

"Under great stress?" Is that a euphemism for holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.? Surely Elisha was a prophet who was just then receiving a double portion of the Holy Spirit.

Perhaps Jesus had both Moses ("Moshe Rabbeinu") and Elijah in mind when he said this. Jews say Moses was called by at least ten names and three of ten start with the "abi" father/master of construct. He is also called "Moshe rabbeinu," Moses our Rabbi/Teacher. Interesting.