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To: CTrent1564
What I am citing is essence what Officially the Catholic Church teaches.

So do they, as i could, contrary to your position.

Disagreements among Catholics here on this site, or on other sites, who make themselves more Catholic than the Pope is in reality people who think too much of themselves. In that sense, they are behaving in some sense like your Protestant cohort.

I will try to remember you when i next engage such super RCs. But this simply illustrates my point that submission to the pope in one century as understood as plainly stated, can mean something the opposite in another. Want examples?

66 posted on 08/24/2014 3:33:34 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

daniel1212:

No, because your interpretation of any thing you post is your view. You of course are entitled to your view, but you are not an expert on Catholic Doctrine, in my view, you are “likely” an ex-Catholic who thinks he knows Catholic Doctrine and now as Protestant is trying to frame it from your new found Protestantism, which I “predict”, will be a different strand of Protestantism before you die. Again, I am only making observations and predictions, not statements of fact with respect to you.

Now, more to the subject at hand, there are different levels of Catholic teaching, things that are Doctrines that are to be held definitively and are part of Divine Revelation and thus are not teachings that can be changed are different than things that taught as to be held as taught via the ordinary magisterium or through a papal bull to ease tensions in the church or to provide a teaching on a matter as general guidance or another thing. With respect to the Jesuits for example, there have been Papal BUlls that 1)Founded the Jesuits, 2) Put them under restriction, 3) Out right suppressed them and took away their canonical standing and 4) eased the suppression and 5) Fully restored the Jesuits back to Full Canonical Standing. There have been Papal Bulls on Slavery that indicated some Popes wanted to end Slavery going back as far as the 14th century, there were some that tolerated it, but put parameters on it, etc, etc.

On all those matters, we are not talking about the Nicene or Apostles Creed, the Canon of Scripture, the Sacraments, the Primacy of the Church and Bishop of Rome, etc. On these matters, there is a clear teaching that has remained unchanged, as all of these are part of the Dogmatic and Doctrine of the Church and come directly from Divine Revelation of Christ to the Apostles.

This term Super RC, I don’t know of such term in Catholic Canon Law. Do you have a source on that? Perhaps you are talking about SSPX followers or Sedevacantist? You are talking about in the former case, schismatic at a low level [they at least at times have entered into dialogue with the Pope], and the later, outright heretics and schismatics.

Again, I am not interested in what an internet Catholic guy says if he or she is spouting off things that have no basis in official Catholic teaching anymore than I am hearing from Protestants of the same stripe. They in essence, while different are in this case the same, they each set themselves up as their own “Pope”. I am comfortable with the fact that in my lifetime, there have been now 5 Popes and I haven’t been one of them.


70 posted on 08/24/2014 4:23:37 PM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: daniel1212

And Saint Thomas Aquinas Interpretation of John 21, the other important Petrine text, with references to Saint Augustine and Saint John Chrystosem, also indicate Saint Peter’s singular and unique role among the Apostles.

http://dhspriory.org/thomas/John21.htm


72 posted on 08/24/2014 5:07:45 PM PDT by CTrent1564
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