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Weep for slaughtered Christians, not for dialogue with Islam
Catholic Culture.org ^ | August 29, 2014 | By Phil Lawler

Posted on 08/30/2014 11:23:26 AM PDT by Salvation

Weep for slaughtered Christians, not for dialogue with Islam

By Phil Lawler | Aug 29, 2014

Faced with the savage violence of the Islamic State (ISIS), Christians can be tempted toward two unhelpful emotional reactions.

 

On one extreme is the thirst for vengeance. If Muslims extremists kill innocent Christians, intemperate voices suggest that we should kill innocent Muslims. Then we, too, would be terrorists. I trust that rational readers recognize the problem here.

But at the other extreme is another irrational urge: the desire to overlook the violence, an inclination toward the mawkish hope that we might “just all be friends.” No doubt motivated by an ardent desire for peace, and steeped in the practices of irenicism, the Christians who fall into this trap probably confirm Islamic terrorists in their belief that the Christian West is too weak to resist them.

Thus last week Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga said that he feared the brutal persecution of Christians by the Islamic State “may push back advancements in the Christian-Muslim dialogue.”

No doubt that’s true. But the leaders of the Islamic State don’t care.

The public statements released by ISIS leaders do not mention any desire for dialogue, to put it mildly. And their reprehensible policies match their bellicose statements. They have no desire to share ideas with Iraqi Christians; they want to annihilate them. Their ultimate goal is not reach a peaceful understanding with the Western world, but to subjugate it.

At a time when Islamic militants are engaged in the wholesale slaughter of their Christian neighbors, a Catholic prelate who worries aloud about setbacks to “dialogue” seems grossly detached from reality. Dialogue and negotiation are always preferable to open warfare. (It was Winston Churchill—no pacifist, he—who observed: “To jaw-jaw is always better than to war-war.”) But once the bloodshed has begun, it is inane to suggest that the negotiations are not going well.

Unfortunately that vapid statement by Cardinal Rodriguez Maradiaga cannot be dismissed lightly. At the time he was speaking as the president of Caritas International, but he is also the chairman of the Council of Cardinals, and his public statements might be taken (or mistaken, I hope) as indicative of Vatican policy. Muslim militants would no doubt be delighted to think that when shown the severed heads of their brethren in Iraq, leaders of the Catholic Church can respond only by fretting about missed opportunities for dialogue.

And the Honduran cardinal was not finished. In fact, the quote above is cut off in mid-sentence. He went on to lament that the bloody advance of ISIS could “destroy the peaceful coexistence…enjoyed by many Muslims and Christians in all parts of the world, but most especially in the Middle East.” Here the poor cardinal comes completely unmoored from reality. It is “most especially in the Middle East” that Muslims and Christians have not lived in harmony in recent years.

For decades Lebanon furnished a model for Christian-Muslim coexistence. But that arrangement broke down 30 years ago, and the country remains in chaos. In other countries of the region—Egypt, Syria, and Iraq, for instance—Christians have worshipped freely, with only occasional troubles, in the past. But with the rise of militant Islam the peace has been broken. What Cardinal Rodriguez Maradiaga says could happen, actually has happened, many months or in some places many years ago.

Pope Benedict XVI recognized the problem when he delicately suggested, in his Regensburg address, that in order to engage in productive dialogue, Islam must overcome its tendency toward the irrational use of force. The violent reaction to that speech proved the Pope’s point. Even “moderate” Islamic leaders slammed the door on the Vatican, refusing to engage in discussions with an institution that might hold them accountable.

In the eight years since the Regensburg address, the continued rise of militant Islam—invariably linked with violence, and with the denial of fundamental human rights—has underlined the concerns that Pope Benedict expressed. Yet rather than pressing the argument that the Pontiff raised, Church leaders have generally backpedaled away from it. Rather than demanding that responsible Muslim leaders join in the campaign against terrorism, prelates pretend that there is no connection between Islamic faith and terrorist violence.

Cardinal Rodriguez Maradiaga is not alone in this respect. The US bishops’ conference, in statement released shortly after the brutal murder of James Foley was posted on the internet, reiterated the desire for dialogue with Islam and lamented that some Catholics have lost interest in that inter-faith conversation. The statement continued:

We understand the confusion and deep emotions stirred by real and apparent acts of aggression and discrimination by certain Muslims against non-Muslims, often against Christians abroad.

Would it be possible to state the case in milder, meeker—or more to the point, weaker—terms? To speak of “confusion” and “real and apparent” violence, at a time when hundreds of Christians are dying and the decapitation of an American is playing on YouTube, is a disservice to the truth. It is, moreover, a sure-fire way to convince any listening terrorists that the Catholic Church lacks the will to resist them, and most Americans that the hierarchy has nothing useful to contribute to this discussion.

To be fair, the bishops’ statement did eventually get around to mentioning “our sadness, even our outrage,” at the violence in the Islamic world. But even in that sentence, the representatives of the US bishops’ conference could not resist saying that Muslims, too, are the targets of extremists, and mentioning “the harmony that binds us together in mutual support, recognition, and friendship."

If there is to be harmony between Islam and Christianity, it must indeed by based on mutual support. And today, “mutual support” requires, at a minimum, a loud, firm, unequivocal, and sustained condemnation of all those who kills Christians in the name of Islam, and all those who support them.

In today’s Wall Street Journal the paper’s former publisher, Karen House, argues that American should expect more from her allies in the Middle East. The title of her editorial colum tells the story: “It’s time for the Saudis to Stand Up.”

Leaders of the Catholic Church should take a parallel approach in conversations with their Islamic counterparts. Tell Muslim clerics that it’s time to stand up. Tell them that we are interested in dialogue, but only if they disassociate themselves completely from those who incite, commit, or justify sectarian violence.

It’s easy enough to say that Islam is a religion of peace. But sometimes, paradoxically, it is necessary to fight for peace. Once the fight has begun, it’s time to choose sides.



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To: Salvation

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41 posted on 08/31/2014 10:21:15 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Salvation

Pope Pius V went to war against islam Turks the real First World War at the Battle of Lepanto, 7 October 1571..

“If Christendom was split asunder — with even Philip disputing papal control of the Church in Spain — the pope nevertheless had the spiritual and temporal authority, the presence of a future saint, to assemble a Holy League, a fighting force that included Catholic knights not only from the papal states and the Knights of Malta, but from Italy, Germany, and Spain; and even from England, Scotland, and Scandinavia, Catholics and freebooters, gentleman adventurers and convicts condemned to row the galleys.”

Pope Pius V
Pope Pius V....” It was his incessant diplomacy that finally brought together the forces of the papal states, the Knights of Malta, Venice, its smaller rival Genoa, the Savoyards, and, most important, Spain and its possessions Naples and Sicily to form the Holy League.”

...”Catholic losses were 7,500 dead — though many of these were knights and noblemen — and another 22,000 wounded (including Miguel de Cervantes).
Pope Pius V, who had commanded the faithful to pray the rosary for victory, was convinced that it was prayer that had turned the tide. The Battle of Lepanto became the feast
day of Our Lady of Victory, later of Our Lady of the Rosary.”

H. W. Crocker III
http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=7391


42 posted on 08/31/2014 12:15:35 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: bunkerhill7
**Pope Pius V went to war against islam Turks the real First World War at the Battle of Lepanto, 7 October 1571..**

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43 posted on 08/31/2014 12:19:17 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RitaOK
I’ve said before that I have long ago come to despise words like “dialogue”, “collaboration”, “social justice”,

As someone said a while back in reference (IIRC) to sociology, it's "the substitution of vocabulary for thought."

44 posted on 08/31/2014 2:30:05 PM PDT by maryz
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To: maryz

Well said. I get it, and agree, maryz. Nice quote.


45 posted on 08/31/2014 6:39:35 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Salvation

Muslim militants would no doubt be delighted to think that when shown the severed heads of their brethren in Iraq, leaders of the Catholic Church can respond only by fretting about missed opportunities for dialogue.

***
So many quotable lines in this piece. Thanks for the ping.


46 posted on 09/01/2014 7:08:49 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: G Larry

it’s purpose

Typo or errors in your source?


47 posted on 09/01/2014 7:10:49 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: skeeter

Well said!


48 posted on 09/01/2014 7:12:35 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

+1


49 posted on 09/01/2014 7:13:15 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: RitaOK

+1


50 posted on 09/01/2014 7:15:21 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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