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To: ebb tide
Do you suppose that God's Covenant with Abraham and the Jewish people had an expiration date? I don't remember expiration dates as part of that story.

Does it irk you that Jesus and His Blessed Mother were Jews? Will Jews not be marching in the armies of the Lord at Armageddon? When St. Ignatius Loyola was confidentially informed by a "helpful" friend that Fr. Diego Lainez (who was to become Ignatius Loyola's immediate successor as General of the Society of Jesus) was a Jew, Loyola replied: "How very fortunate he must be to be so closely related to Our Savior and His Blessed Mother."

If you believe that Saint John Paul II, as pope, was guilty of "material heresy" whether or not John Vennari or any other mere dissident human being thinks so, then you confess schism. See, it was this sort of thing that got dead excommunicated Marcel in so much trouble under Paul VI and Saint John Paul II.

As to what defined his papacy, the high points are too numerous to be exhaustively listed here. Thomas Jefferson wanted three achievements to adorn his tombstone. Using three as a guideline: 1) God saw fit to give Saint John Paul the Great two weeks short of 37 years as pope; 2) He was an outstanding exemplar of the Catholic pro-life position in all venues, Catholic and otherwise; 3) He became an indispensable partner of Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher in wielding the Polish Labor Union Solidarnosc and providing active leadership in bringing down the USSR and the Iron Curtain.

Saint John Paul the Great was simply the most magnificent leader the Catholic Church has known in a verrrrrry long time and perhaps the single outstanding person of the 20th Century in his positive effect on mankind in service to God. The SSPX disagrees. You disagree. That explains our differences which are not likely to be resolved by agreement.

191 posted on 09/13/2014 8:51:21 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Roast 'em Danno!)
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To: BlackElk
Will Jews not be marching in the armies of the Lord at Armageddon?

It appears you don't believe in the dogma, extra Ecclesiam nulla salus. Those who deny Church dogma are heretics. Welcome to the club.

193 posted on 09/14/2014 8:04:02 AM PDT by ebb tide
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