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Who Is the Man Who Fears We Could Be on the Eve of 'World War III'?
Breitbart's Big Peace ^ | August 31, 2014 | Robert Moynihan

Posted on 08/31/2014 7:44:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Hardly any Americans will know of Hilarion Alfeyev, 48, a Russian Orthodox bishop who acts as the "foreign minister" of his Church, but it is important that they do. He is a bridge between not just the Orthodox Church and Catholicism but a bridge between Russia and America.

As a Catholic American, I first saw him 15 years ago on a cold December day in Moscow. Hilarion, then 33, was already a rising star in the firmament of the Russian Orthodox Church.

He had done his graduate studies in philosophy at Oxford — rather rare for Russian Orthodox Church leaders.

Back in Moscow, he had been named Secretary for Inter-Christian Affairs in the Department for External Church Relations of the Moscow Patriarchate, meaning his task was to deal with Protestants and Catholics.

Hilarion had been sent to attend a special ceremony in the Catholic Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception in Moscow. It was a small courtesy extended by the Russian Orthodox leadership to the Catholics, who number only a few thousand in that great city of 17 million...

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Orthodox Christian; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: alfeyev; catholic; catholics; easterneurope; orthodox; putin; russia; russianorthodox; ukraine; wwiii
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To: BobL

“If it’s true, it’s up to us to let the rest of the world know.”

Just set up conspiracy website no. 1 trillion. Oh wait, you guys have already turned FR into it...


41 posted on 09/01/2014 7:50:57 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree we are on the brink of a world war that will pit the forces of radical Islam against the west. This war will go nuclear with Iran and Israel exchanging nukes and terrorists bringing nuclear, biologic and chemical WMDs into western Europe and the US. If the west is to win this war...this is by no means certain... Islam must be utterly destroyed little different than Nazism.


42 posted on 09/01/2014 7:55:09 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But Obama always reminds us that these things can’t happen because this is the 21st century and he has created a tranquil world and the world will finally submit to his greatness.


43 posted on 09/01/2014 8:01:04 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Grzegorz 246

...but there are some non-believers out there. How do we reach them? LOL.


44 posted on 09/01/2014 8:04:30 AM PDT by BobL (...part of Agenda 21 (whatever that is))
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To: wetphoenix

Even with the terrorists shooting out residential areas - apartment buildings, schools, and otherwise using human shields, civilian casualties have been kept low. It’s 3000 people after 3 months because those are still Ukrainians.

What were the civilian casualties again in Chechnya after Russia carpet bombed them?


45 posted on 09/01/2014 4:38:49 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Ivan Mazepa

Well, Ivan, following the rebel agitprop, it is right sector goons who are sniping people and doing mortar attacks to make rebels look bad. Yes, Russian media is not 100% honest in their description of the conflict but comparing Ukrainian narrative with some facts I know for sure it is 100% that Ukrainian media is as dishonest or worse. Who of both partying are right or wrong in every exact case noone knows. More like both are half true backing their reports with opinions based on misinterpretation of facts behind these half truths. But it is 100% true that Ukrainian government indiscriminately used artillery and airsrikes against population centers.
And who said that what happened in Chechnya was right?
In 1993 Chechen problem required political solution with probably a little specop involvement. Yeltsin has messed things up and it is a direct reason of Chechen de-facto independence three years later. Before the war there was probably 3% Islamists and 3% fascists in Chechnya and 10% of criminals who exploited a deterioration of law and order who altogether did really ugly things but when fedgov ruined every house around and with Arab influx everybody became a Wahhabi and at least half of population supported their jihad against the federal government. If you guys are honest that you want an analogy with Chechnya in Donbas their people are in their right to counter you with deadly force. And every outside help is fully justified. Not to mention they aren’t building head-chopping regime there.
I refuse to believe that you as a Ukrainian patriot want to turn your southeast into Chechnya, but it must be the case for your leadership. The way Poroshenko screwed national economy he wouldn’t miss any crisis, the worse the better, to make people busy and distracted.
Not to mention that his punishing for disloyalty of the entire territory contributing the most to the national GDP is that the maker freedom loving Ukrainian people should pay attention and take notes from.


46 posted on 09/01/2014 5:34:17 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: .45 Long Colt

A slingshot loaded with a hex nut would make him think twice about doing that again. Hex nuts aren’t traceable by ballistics either. The 1/4 inch ones are the best.


48 posted on 09/02/2014 11:14:17 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Your feelings don't trump my free speech!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wolf Blitzer?


49 posted on 09/02/2014 11:16:59 AM PDT by McGruff (You can lead a human to knowledge but you can't make him think)
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To: wetphoenix
The reason I brought up Chechnya is to say that Ukrainians have a different approach to war than Russians do, who bombed, killed and raped everything in sight in Chechnya, civilian or fighter. Ukrainian artillery and air strikes haven't been indiscriminate, otherwise there would have been 50K dead in Donetsk alone.

And every outside help is fully justified.

It was outside help to begin with. Borodai, Girkin, Bezler - top political and military leadership are overwhelmingly Russian citizens. So are clowns like Babai and Motorola. You've seen Strelkov's address to people of Donbas few months ago - they couldn't care less about dying for Russia, federalization or independence. Russians were on their way out if not for the Red Army moving in last week.

Saying outside help was justified suggests you approve Putin sending the troops into Ukraine, is that right?

The way Poroshenko screwed national economy he wouldn’t miss any crisis, the worse the better, to make people busy and distracted.

Little corrections here: GDP was falling before Euromaidan. When ATO started but before Poroshenko came in in May, the interim government was already predicting a -6% drop. War and all.

50 posted on 09/02/2014 2:38:06 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Ivan Mazepa

~The reason I brought up Chechnya is to say that Ukrainians have a different approach to war than Russians do, who bombed, killed and raped everything in sight in Chechnya, civilian or fighter. Ukrainian artillery and air strikes haven’t been indiscriminate, otherwise there would have been 50K dead in Donetsk alone.~

The scale of fatalities is limited by the Ukrainian military capabilities. Not to mention military is not facing as organized resistance as Chechen insurgency was. DNR doesn’t have a 300 jet air force, they had no armor and stationary SAMs etc.
And I repeat, First Chechen War is not an example to follow. War wasn’t a solution to a crisis in Chechnya at the time and in Donetsk this time.

~It was outside help to begin with. Borodai, Girkin, Bezler - top political and military leadership are overwhelmingly Russian citizens. So are clowns like Babai and Motorola. You’ve seen Strelkov’s address to people of Donbas few months ago - they couldn’t care less about dying for Russia, federalization or independence. Russians were on their way out if not for the Red Army moving in last week.~

Nice choice you have offered them “to die for independence or not to die in dependence”. In fact you said it all. If not the fear of destruction by the Ukrainian forces the majority would be a supporters of secession.
And clowns like Babai and Motorola is not an “invasion”.

~Saying outside help was justified suggests you approve Putin sending the troops into Ukraine, is that right?~

No, I’m not. I’m not a fan of empire, but I can understand why it is getting done (if it is really happening).

~Little corrections here: GDP was falling before Euromaidan. When ATO started but before Poroshenko came in in May, the interim government was already predicting a -6% drop. War and all.~

True, and Poroshenko allegedly came to fix it, but all he is doing is screwing it more and more.
Maidan would ask him and he is doing his best to escalate and scream “Bear!” for distraction.
It is a typical Junta pattern to make war as a tool of distraction for economic incompetence.


51 posted on 09/02/2014 9:12:28 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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The Russian are no match for Nato military capabilities.

Nor concerned about this joke sideshow put on by Putin. They are Iraq with better ballet.


52 posted on 09/02/2014 9:16:55 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: wetphoenix

lol

Now Ukraine invaded itself. lol


53 posted on 09/02/2014 9:17:37 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: rbmillerjr

Russia is not fighting NATO, they are just rebuilding their Evil Empire and the west is letting him


54 posted on 09/02/2014 9:20:30 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

~lol

Now Ukraine invaded itself. lol~

You have probably brought the wrong definition. How would you call actions of federal government, bombing a seceding state?


55 posted on 09/02/2014 9:49:00 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix
Nice choice you have offered them “to die for independence or not to die in dependence”

Isn't it the line from Hamlet? To die for an idea which hadn't developed in Donbas but is promoted by marginals and fighters from abroad, or not to die, that is the question...

No, I’m not. I’m not a fan of empire, but I can understand why it is getting done (if it is really happening).

What's with this "if"? If it's not the case then
- the ten Russian soldiers really did get lost right into a war zone last week
- the head of the organization of Soldier's Mothers (Soyuz Materei) is a CIA spy for asking for an inquiry into hundreds of Russian soldiers gone missing recently
- Pskov Gubernia paper is a CIA front because of their story. Lev Shlosberg (a Jew Banderite, as Russian nazis would call him) who had his head bashed in because of the story, collects his paycheque from the US State Department too.

Russian troops in Ukraine is the worst kept secret in the world.

56 posted on 09/03/2014 10:35:23 AM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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