You are projecting a false argument on to my response. I was showing that the teaching of the Popes to pray to Mary is not based on anything in the Bible. Others then postulated that we pray “through” Jesus. Again, not based on what Jesus taught us to do.
We have direct access to God and can pray directly to God. In fact, that is what Jesus taught us to do. To address God directly. That is based upon scripture and if you look at the scriptures that I quoted, they state “Our father which art in heaven....”
Yes, but to a non-believer, your statement sounds as though we can not pray directly to Jesus, either. Just a point of clarification, nothing more, and said in love.
But who was the intercessor at the Wedding of Cana?
Who said, “Do whatever he tells you.”
She always defers things to her son.
Are you not believing this in the Bible?
Just to get the discussion off track a little, remember His name “Wonderful Counselor, Almighty God, Everlasting Father” makes Jesus God and Father. He is the Father and God became man.
God said in Isaiah that He was the servant. Really cool...
Read chapters 41-43 to grasp the context. The sentence before is crucial to understanding. In 42:1 He talks about His servant, “My chosen one in whom My soul delights.”
Continuing through to 43 God is still talking about His servant and says in verse 10:
You are My witnesses, declares the LORD,
And My servant whom I have chosen,
In order that you may know and believe Me,
And understand that I am He.
Before Me there was no God formed,
And there will be none after Me.
Repeat...”And understand that I am He.” New American Standard Version.
As for Mary, she was blessed. Blessed to experience living with God for thirty years. The prophecy of Revelation 12 is interesting. As for the wine, Jesus would not disobey His mom.
I pray to the Father and when talking to Him do not actually think about Jesus and the Father being separate. The Holy Spirit is more like what a Biblical woman should exemplify, especially not speaking. Jesus is the only One we are to worship and Mary would be horrified at what is being done today.