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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
Nope, you folks are Roman in every way and will always be so. I quote from a Protestant historian: (I bolded part of it, as it emphasizes my point about being Roman)

Christ had designed to conquer by purely spiritual and moral means. Conversion was voluntary, a genuine change in heart and life.

But now the military spirit of imperial Rome had entered the church. The church had conquered the Roman empire. But in reality the Roman empire had conquered the church, by making the church over into the image of the Roman empire.

The church had changed its nature, had become a political organization in the spirit and pattern of imperial Rome.

The imperial church of the 4th and 5th centuries had became an entirely different institution from the church of the first three centuries. In its ambition to rule it lost the Spirit of Christ.

Worship, at first very simple, was developed into elaborate, stately, imposing ceremonies having all the outward splendor that belonged to Rome.

The church became an amalgamation of pagan philosophies. The church lost sight of its true mission.

38 posted on 09/09/2014 5:46:49 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: sasportas
"But now the military spirit of imperial Rome had entered the church. The church had conquered the Roman empire. But in reality the Roman empire had conquered the church, by making the church over into the image of the Roman empire."

No, Rome fell but the Church remained. It didn't conquer Rome -- in Christ, we are far more than conquerers (Romans 8). As an aside on the "martial spirit of imperial Rome", one of the reasons Rome fell was because imperial Rome lost the martial spirit of the Republic. The spirit of Virtus was lost, the Equestrian class ceded their role to the NCO class of the legions and so forth, I won't trouble you with the technical details but you get the drift.

"The church had changed its nature, had become a political organization in the spirit and pattern of imperial Rome."

The Bible outlines that Churches should have organization. When you have a worldwide Church, you have worldwide organization. Nothing sinister here.

"The imperial church of the 4th and 5th centuries had became an entirely different institution from the church of the first three centuries. In its ambition to rule it lost the Spirit of Christ."

Says you, or whoever wrote this tripe.

"Worship, at first very simple, was developed into elaborate, stately, imposing ceremonies having all the outward splendor that belonged to Rome."

No splendor belongs to Rome, or the Pope, or America. All splendor belongs to God alone.

"The church became an amalgamation of pagan philosophies. The church lost sight of its true mission."

No it didn't and no it didn't -- the author says yop yop yop, the only response required is nop nop nop.

39 posted on 09/09/2014 6:32:06 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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