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To: Elsie

“Why would a NON-’sinner’ need to be saved?”

I’ve always wondered why it is so hard for non-Catholics to see that she was saved by God. He took away her sin before she was born. He knows us before we are conceived so why can God not choose to save her at conception as opposed to after birth? No one said that Mary didn’t need a savior. God’s Grace prevented her from sinning. He saved her.


154 posted on 09/13/2014 10:54:40 AM PDT by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: samiam1972
I’ve always wondered why it is so hard for non-Catholics to see that she was saved by God. He took away her sin before she was born.

That's ridiculous.

She herself said she needed a savior.

That means she knew she was a sinner, something that she would not be if she had no sin nature.

Besides, she had a human father, hence a sin nature. God could not have taken away her sin nature and had her still be fully human to the point that Jesus shared in our humanity through her.

If it indeed happened as the RCC, then she never sinned and in that case, never needed a savior.

And if God could do it and did do it for her, why not the rest of mankind?

It would have saved the world a lot of grief.

God’s Grace prevented her from sinning. He saved her.

Then she had no free will

158 posted on 09/13/2014 1:19:17 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: samiam1972
Incorrect:"...all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God." - Romans 3

God Himself is the only sinless one. That is why she prayed for a Savior.
160 posted on 09/13/2014 1:58:01 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: samiam1972; Elsie; metmom
I’ve always wondered why it is so hard for non-Catholics to see that she was saved by God. He took away her sin before she was born.


I've often wondered why it is so hard for Catholics to read and understand God's word. The wages of sin is death. Sin may be “covered” by animal sacrifice but may only be removed by full punishment (death). Only Jesus’ pure, sinless, precious blood could remove our sin.

He did not “take away” Mary's sin. He paid the penalty for her sin and everyone else’s at calvary.

Abandon your man-made traditions and read His word.

171 posted on 09/13/2014 9:21:37 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: samiam1972
He knows us before we are conceived so why can God not choose to save her at conception as opposed to after birth?

Simple.

GOD does NOT save ANYONE against their will.

We make a CHOICE to be saved.

210 posted on 09/14/2014 5:13:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: samiam1972
God’s Grace prevented her from sinning.

There is ZERO of ANYTHING like this found in the bible.

It is an imagined scenario.

211 posted on 09/14/2014 5:14:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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