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To: Brian Kopp DPM
Dear Brian,

It depends on what is meant by “Opposition to the Traditional Mass” means.

Some folks just don't prefer the old rite. Is that “opposition”?


sitetest

6 posted on 09/14/2014 10:10:56 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest
It depends on what is meant by “Opposition to the Traditional Mass” means.
Some folks just don't prefer the old rite. Is that “opposition”?
sitetest

Preference is NOT opposition. I don't ever see how ANYONE could mistake the two. I love BOTH Masses because they are God's great gift to us.
WHY would ANY Christian cavil over the two? It's UN-CHRISTIAN of them to do so
*****In BOTH Masses we are allowed the IMMENSE privilege and gift to be able to CONSUME the very Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus. Who CARES what "rite" is used?

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I went on a tour of eastern Europe and went to a Roman Catholic Mass in Serbia. The ONLY words I understood in the homily the Serb priest gave were "Jesu Christos."
THAT was good enough for me.
I've been to Masses all over this planet. The priests at the Christmas Eve Mass in Cairo spoke a little Arabic, French, German ... and the Lord's prayer was in ENGLISH. Yay, I could pray along.

I didn't need it to be in English to recognize EVERY SINGLE event at that Mass. I've been to THOUSANDS of Masses over my life and the IMPORTANT part, the changing of bread and wine, was there. WHAT else did I need?

THAT is the BEAUTY of our sacred Mass: it's the same at every Mass on the planet. I can only THANK our good Lord for allowing me to be baptized as a Catholic.

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Preference: a greater liking for one alternative over another or others. "a preference for long walks and tennis over jogging" synonyms: liking, partiality, predilection, proclivity, fondness, taste, inclination, leaning, bias, bent, penchant, predisposition

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Opposition: resistance or dissent, expressed in action or argument. "there was considerable opposition to the proposal" synonyms: resistance, hostility, antagonism, enmity, antipathy, objection, dissent, disapproval, criticism, demurral

8 posted on 09/14/2014 11:38:10 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: sitetest

The bishop in the next diocese over coerced a Benedictine Abby into ceasing the celebration of the TLM in their crypt chapel once a month on a week day back in the early days of Summorum. That is “opposition.”

It took almost 5 years, but Rome finally forced the bishop to respect the just aspirations of the faithful and offer a regular weekly TLM in his diocese. They now offer one mass in that diocese on Sundays at 2:00.

Some people just don’t prefer the old rite. That is not “opposition.”

It might not be very perceptive on their part, but it ain’t opposition ;-)


11 posted on 09/14/2014 2:31:48 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: sitetest

“Some folks just don’t prefer the old rite. . .”

SEE POST 7.
Yeah, mostly anti-Catholic Protestants, organized athiests, Muslims (of course), and some Jews. Not that they dislike Catholic people, but the Catholic Church challenges their beliefs and practices (and vice versa). Conflict Forever!

And at your post 13:
“For a significant number of traditionalists, preferring the new rite = opposing the old rite.”

If you wish to understand the old vs.new Mass, get a copy of a Latin-English missal, used to follow the traditional Latin Mass, and the booklet used in the new Mass. Compare the prayers prayed. The difference is profound. Back in 1969 it seemed fresh and new, like putting a man on the moon! That and other changes have injured the health of the Church, quite nearly to the point of crisis.

Some people like the new Mass because it’s easier to sit and listen (if only the music could be a little bit better). Following in the missal is, some think, trouble and bother, and the new Mass is a welcome departure. There’s laughter, applause, novelty, and not so much heavy God stuff.


17 posted on 09/15/2014 7:25:12 AM PDT by Daffy
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