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1 posted on 09/17/2014 9:07:14 AM PDT by thetallguy24
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I personally did not find anything in those remarks that elevates her to the level of God.


28 posted on 09/17/2014 9:45:37 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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There are countries in Central and South America where Mary is the one on the Crucifix. Go figure.


36 posted on 09/17/2014 10:39:39 AM PDT by high info voter
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To everyone:

Produce the actual quote from Pope Francis or shut up.


38 posted on 09/17/2014 10:40:11 AM PDT by Petrosius
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>> the second Holy Trinity

What the heck is the “second Holy Trinity”?

I only know of one Holy Trinity.


40 posted on 09/17/2014 10:47:58 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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Without the Virgin Mary there would be no Mother Church.

Jesus also descended from Abraham as he was descended from Mary.

So why isn't Abraham revered like Mary is?

44 posted on 09/17/2014 11:02:51 AM PDT by what's up
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I had to check this “theological dissertation” out! Wow. It was a trigger to say the least. Anyway, in my “bing” search for “the mysterious woman of Revelation 17” I found a site that defined the woman as the church of the reformation.

www.bibleexplained.com/revelation/r-seg17-18/r17a.htm

Being a non-denominational Christian I guess that means me?


45 posted on 09/17/2014 11:09:03 AM PDT by huldah1776
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I do NOT believe a word of this is true. It sounds like something that would be published in The Onion.


49 posted on 09/17/2014 11:47:22 AM PDT by Gumdrop (~)
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"Even the Mother, 'the New Eve', as Paul himself calls her,

Oh, he DOES? Chapter and verse?

Waiting for some Catholic to provide the Scripture reference for that statement should be interesting......

50 posted on 09/17/2014 11:47:34 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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What a moron.


51 posted on 09/17/2014 11:49:06 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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The site claims..

Unfortunately for the veracity of "the site," the pope remains Catholic.

54 posted on 09/17/2014 11:58:49 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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Yah'shua did not come to start a new religion.

He did not come to start the Presbyterian, Baptist or Roman church.

He came to return His people to His WORD.

Later to share His WORD with the Nations.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

62 posted on 09/17/2014 1:28:48 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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In order to expose the unScriptural nature of certain RC teaching, you do not have to engage in the manner of egregious extrapolation of words that RCs often engage in trying to support traditions of men from Scripture.

The elevation of Mary to a "certain equality with the Godhead" is well evidenced by sanctioned and uncensored Catholic teaching.

That is not too far once you start with a sinless perpetual virgin who is also made into

an almost almighty demigoddess to whom "Jesus owes His Precious Blood" to,

whose [Mary] merits we are saved by,

who "had to suffer, as He did, all the consequences of sin,"

and "was elevated to a certain equality with the Heavenly Father,"

even so that “sometimes salvation is quicker if we remember Mary's name then if we invoked the name of the Lord Jesus,"

for indeed saints have "but one advocate," and that is Mary, who "alone art truly loving and solicitous for our salvation,"

and whose power now "is all but unlimited,"

for indeed she "seems to have the same power as God,"

"surpassing in power all the angels and saints in Heaven,"

so that "the Holy Spirit acts only by the Most Blessed Virgin, his Spouse."

Moreover, "there is no grace which Mary cannot dispose of as her own, which is not given to her for this purpose,"

and who has "authority over the angels and the blessed in heaven,"

including "assigning to saints the thrones made vacant by the apostate angels,"

whom the good angels "unceasingly call out to," greeting her "countless times each day with 'Hail, Mary,' while prostrating themselves before her, begging her as a favour to honour them with one of her requests,"

and who (obviously) cannot "be honored to excess,"

and who is (obviously) the glory of Catholic people, whose "honor and dignity surpass the whole of creation." Sources .

And then you are in the realm of the cults:

Note that many Catholic Marian attributions much parallel even that of Christ:

For in the the Catholic quest to almost deify Mary, it is taught by Catholics*,


120 posted on 09/18/2014 5:25:04 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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LOL how did I miss this whopper yesterday!?

Thanks for the laughs!


140 posted on 09/18/2014 7:56:54 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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Different words to say the same thing they’ve been saying for centuries.


216 posted on 09/18/2014 2:34:47 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (No one can come to me unless the Father who sent Me draws him.)
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-— The site claims his sermon somehow indicates a change in the position Jesus holds in the Holy Trinity -—

A web site claimed something. WOW!

It’s not like websites claim things every day.

The sad thing is, the Catholic bashers will believe every word, without ever reading this ludicrous article.


284 posted on 09/18/2014 5:01:51 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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There’s a lot I like about the Catholic Church, but the whole “Mother of God” as opposed to “Mother of Christ” is just a bridge too far. It makes no sense. Maybe they mean she is the ideal Mother, but the terminology is an awful way to communicate that.

If Christ pre-existed the world (as the New Testament teaches with in-your-face clarity) then Mary as Mother (and therefore creator of) of his Divinity also pre-existed the world. This all falls right into the muslims’ complaint that Christians believe God has sexual relations with other beings. What a mess.

Why isn’t it enough to say, with Scripture, “blessed is she among women?”


339 posted on 09/18/2014 8:21:04 PM PDT by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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“Supposedly”? we’re arguing about “supposedly” when it’s plainly obvious he didn’t say anything of that sort. sheesh


352 posted on 09/19/2014 12:42:10 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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Without her Jesus Christ would not have been born and introduced into Christian lives.

Oh, noes! He said THAT?

398 posted on 09/19/2014 4:09:08 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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Why would you post such a deeply stupid article?


424 posted on 09/19/2014 7:32:49 AM PDT by Romulus
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Interpretation of Catholic doctrine courtesy ofa business publication. Ya gotta luv it. :-)


482 posted on 09/19/2014 5:44:07 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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