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To: af_vet_1981
If you hate the Catholic Church and think you have an alternative church that is holy, catholic, apostolic, historic, and visible, I'm listening.

You can listen for a long, long, time, because there is no such local visible church, let alone a whole unscriptural denomination having supralocal governance.

Apparently, you do not understand the differences between the Kingdom of Heaven (which is temporal and impure, containing both tares and good wheat) , and the Kingdom of Heaven/Christ (which is not of this world, and consists only of faithful regenerated believer-priests).

There is a Holy Church (Heb. 12:22-24), and there are visible churches (cf. 1 Cor. 3:1-3, 5:1-5 and other); and there is no word or concept of "catholic" regarding an association of local churches in the Bible. So there is no holy, visible, catholic Church in the Bible, or commended by it.

99 posted on 09/20/2014 7:25:25 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1
You can listen for a long, long, time, because there is no such local visible church, ...

Hence the protesters who continually re-form whatever historical churches they find in their generation into new flavors of denominations, sects, and cults. I suppose it is more an art than anything else. What do they have in common ? They protest too much against the one holy, catholic, and apostolic church.

113 posted on 09/20/2014 8:16:26 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: imardmd1
Catholics believe in a Triune Godhead, as do Biblical redeemed followers of Christ. But it is my opinion that their Christ is another Jesus,

Such an opinion was shared by Fred Phelps, who attended Bob Jones University, and started an Independent Fundamentalist Baptist church called Westboro Baptist Church after leaving the school early because it was not quite biblical enough for him. Is that one of the biblical churches you recognize ?

There is a Holy Church (Heb. 12:22-24), and there are visible churches (cf. 1 Cor. 3:1-3, 5:1-5 and other); and there is no word or concept of "catholic" regarding an association of local churches in the Bible. So there is no holy, visible, catholic Church in the Bible, or commended by it.

Which visible named churches in the world today do you recognize as being in the Bible ?

205 posted on 09/23/2014 4:59:43 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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