Posted on 09/27/2014 11:05:41 AM PDT by Gamecock
Really??
Where does the Bible say it is only supported by the Text?
Nice try, only after so much criticism and one points out the verses of Luke, “all generations call me blessed” do we hear Fundamentalists then say “oh, we call her blessed.”
Wow, just wow.
John 16:13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
1 John 2:20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit -- just as it has taught you, remain in him.
1 Corinthians 2:9-14 However, as it is written: "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him" -- but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words. The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
You wouldn’t have the Bible without the Catholic Church, what you preach is 2000 years and 2 continents and a vast ocean removed from the time of Jesus. Christ founded a Church not a book.
Matthew 2:23, “And He went and settled in a town called Nazareth; that there might be fulfilled what was spoken through the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.”
Where is this prophecy mentioned that he would be called a Nazarene?
Whoever is coaching you guys that this is some sort of "gotcha" question really should spend some time studying your own Early Church Fathers, because it was answered long ago, by Jerome. His answer: Isaiah 11:1.
No, you didn't. They only proclaimed themselves infallible with no support from scripture. I can assure you that a group that directly contradicts scripture is not infallible.
>>To date, I have not seen a reason to believe it is not.<<
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Now please show your infallible source that shows where the apostles taught the assumption of Mary and the requirement for it's belief.
Can religion do without motherhood? It certainly does not do without fatherhood, for one of the most accurate descriptions of God is that of the Giver and Provider of good things. But since motherhood is as necessary as fatherhood in the natural order—perhaps even more so—shall the devoted religious heart be without a woman to love?
We can tell things to the Bible but I certainly don't see the word "Nazarene" in Isaiah 11:1 thus proving the Text does not suffice.
2Timothy 3:8, "Just as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so these men also resist the truth..."
But are Jannes and Jambres in the Old Testament? Or do we have to find out elsewhere? Apparently we must consult Jewish Tradition to find out who they were.
Please show us where Paul was only talking about written texts? You can’t prove it so your argument is fundamentally flawed.
God also used Judas, Balaam's donkey, and many evil kings. God said He would preserve His word for all generations. The means by which He did it is immaterial. It's actually blasphemy for man to try take the credit. Besides, it was the Jews who where in trusted with the scriptures. The books were well established long before the CC declared it so.
So, in contradiction of Jerome, who was debating with those who refused to believe that Jesus Christ fulfilled the prophecies referenced in Matthew, you choose to believe what?
[I]t's very hard to sin when you are holding it [the Miraculous Medal]; you almost have to discard it, or at least put it in your pocket to proceed with anything nasty. -T. O'Toole, "The Miraculous Medal: my favorite sacramental"
Ahh! That one again! I wonder how many more times we will have to answer that?
In Isaiah 11:1 it says, "Then a shoot will spring from the stem of Jesse, and a branch from his roots will bear fruit." In Hebrew, the word for "branch" is netzer, "NZR" which letters are included in NaZaReth.
Even the Catholic Church says that. Not sure why Catholics keep asking that question as if it's some kind of gotcha.
I didn't say he was talking about texts. Just show an infallible source that proves the apostles taught the assumption of Mary and the requirement to believe that. If you can't do that then the text is all we are left with as it's the only source for what they taught. Do you have that source?
Galatians 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Silly Fulton J. Sheen. He forgot to read God's word.
Their “church fathers” are right except when they take away those nifty gotcha questions.
It is not “all assumed”!
It is well documented.
Not all FACTUAL history is recorded in the Bible.
The apple that fell on Newton’s head is not mentioned in God’s word either.
So you must be floating away do to the lack of gravity.
With all due respect that's begging the question.
It's you Protestants that demand we Catholics "show that in Scripture" and then turn around and say that if we demonstrate something in Scripture, that "proves scripture trumps tradition"? Really?
This is actually why I personally never play this "show me from scripture" game anymore (other than to demonstrate on occasion there are alternate ways to read Scripture than the Protestant way). Because it's ultimately your burden to demonstrate Scripture is the only source of moral certainty for a Christian, because such a way of thinking was unheard of before the "Reformation".
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