Another anti-Mary thread?
Pius XII, in his decree in 1950, declared the Assumption teaching to be a dogma revealed by God. But the basis upon which he justifies this assertion is not that of Scripture or patristic testimony but of speculative theology.And if you don't believe this poorly stated "dogma," you will lose your salvation.He concludes that because it seems reasonable and just that God should follow a certain course of action with respect to the person of Mary, and because he has the power, that he has in fact done so. And, therefore, we must believe that he really acted in this way.
To dispute this doctrine, according to Rome’s teaching, would result in the loss of salvation.Wow, that's gotta be pretty scary for day to day Catholics.
Believe in dogma (not supported by scripture) proclaimed by a Pope or, even after being a "saved" Catholic, and you lose your salvation?
Is this blaspheme of the Holy Spirit?
Thank goodness real salvation received from Jesus can NOT be revoked by a Pope.
John 14:20
At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.No one can remove a Christian from being in Jesus, nor remove Jesus from being in the Christian.
Is Jesus in the Eucharist?
Could be from the line of reasoning above: "because he has the power, that he has in fact done so"
Works for so many doctrines in Catholicism.
John 6
27 Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to eternal life, which the Son of man will give to you; for on him has God the Father set his seal."
32 Jesus then said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, it was not Moses who gave you the bread from heaven; my Father gives you the true bread from heaven.
33 For the bread of God is that which comes down from heaven, and gives life to the world."
34 They said to him, "Lord, give us this bread always."
35 Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; he who comes to me shall not hunger, and he who believes in me shall never thirst.
48 I am the bread of life.
49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. 50 This is the bread which comes down from heaven, that a man may eat of it and not die. 51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven; if any one eats of this bread, he will live for ever; and the bread which I shall give for the life of the world is my flesh."
53 So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you;
54 he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
56 He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. 57 As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me.
58 This is the bread which came down from heaven, not such as the fathers ate and died; he who eats this bread will live for ever."
Until they can. "He/She did what? Well then, they are not a Christian. Get a couple more peeps together. "He/She did what? They are no Christian." And now you have an edict of excommunication.
As a result, the individual has been declared excommunicate and removed from the society of Christians. Separated from Jesus by consensus. And so by what authority do protestant claim to declare someone a non-Christian? Futhermore, does their separation jeopardize their OSAS status? And once again what magisterial authority do protestants claim to make such a determination?
Rather, the protestant doesn't concern themselves with such matters. They simply attempt to console themselves with the standard protestant line, "They were never Christians to begin with."
Interesting that they'll assume the mantle of magiserial authority to determine an individual's status as a Christian and yet deny there is such a thing as magisterial authority in defining matters of faith and morals
Is Jesus in the Eucharist? Could be from the line of reasoning above: "because he has the power, that he has in fact done so" Works for so many doctrines in Catholicism.
In the end it's not about whether authority exists. Even protestants recognize a modicum of terrestial magisterial authority is necessary since they practice it (although they won't call it that). The issue is where it exists. Peter or Luther. Jesus gave the command to Peter, not to Luther. The Petrine Office is Supreme.